Spence must fight at 160 and 168 to be ATG

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  • DeryckAtlanta
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    #21
    Originally posted by revelated

    He fights at 147.

    Or are you saying you will be just as dismissive of Crawford fighting Amir Khan ( essentially a 140 pound fighter) or Josh Taylor (unified at 140)?

    Because if you're not willing to admit that Crawford is a "huge welterweight" too, then you're a hypocrite. The dude frequently talked about going up to 154 because it'd be easy for him.
    Crawford/Khan is a bad comparison, Khan moved up to welter in 2014 and Crawford in 2017, so if Khan is "essentially" a 140 pound fighter, then so is Crawford. I agree though that Spence is a 147lb fighter and I think he still has the opportunity to be considered great.

    Also, you mention WBO mandatory for Joshua vs Crawford, I'm not sure if you realized that Usyk's team filed the petition to be activated as mandatory in June of 2019 and it is just now being called for. The last two Mandatory's for the WBO in Welter were Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter. For whatever reason, though I think it's politics/money, they did not file. So again, not comparable.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DeryckAtlanta

      Crawford/Khan is a bad comparison, Khan moved up to welter in 2014 and Crawford in 2017, so if Khan is "essentially" a 140 pound fighter, then so is Crawford. I agree though that Spence is a 147lb fighter and I think he still has the opportunity to be considered great.

      Also, you mention WBO mandatory for Joshua vs Crawford, I'm not sure if you realized that Usyk's team filed the petition to be activated as mandatory in June of 2019 and it is just now being called for. The last two Mandatory's for the WBO in Welter were Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter. For whatever reason, though I think it's politics/money, they did not file. So again, not comparable.
      Wrong.

      WBO just got done threatening Herring, fresh after his fight.

      They've threatened Joshua and Eddie multiple times even when Usyk wasn't calling.

      They have NEVER threatened Crawford. That's BS.

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      • SCEN3RY
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        #23
        He needs to fight Crawford first before any such talk. As for his discipline at making 147, that's a compliment to him. He's somewhat big, but he doesn't strike me as someone that struggles to make the weight in order to fight smaller men.

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        • creekrat77
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          #24
          Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
          Spence doesn't have a real avenue to ATG status. Dude is 30 years old and still hasnt become "the guy" in his lone weight class. Jermell would beat Eera and he's far too small to be effective at 160 or 168.

          Spence's best skill is cutting weight and hes among the best at it
          If he was smart he would have taken Floyd's hat and instigated a fight

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          • Larry the boss
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            #25
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

            I should give him a credit for fighting welterweights? he is a huge welterweight, lol.
            why would he not get credit for fighting ww's when he is a ww??

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            • KillaMane26
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              #26
              Not really he on the road to becoming an ATG at 147 if he fights Thurman and Crawford and Pacquiao

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              • KTFOKING
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                #27
                Spence needs to first handle business at 147 but you think he will be able to fight at 168? He's not THAT big lol.

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                • Fists_of_Fury
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Spence is a huge welterweight, he has been at 147 the whole career.

                  Thinking you are something because you beat Porter and ex 140 guy Danny Garcia is a joke. And now he will challenge ex flyweight an maybe he even loses the fight, lol.

                  Man up and fight middleweights if you want some legacy.
                  Maybe he should use performance enhancing drugs and blame it on eating testicles. That will enhance his legacy. Maybe hit his self in a fight too. That will surely enhance his legacy. Beating old Wlad on performance enhancing drugs and bum squad bigot with tampered gloves is a real joke. Legacy doe .

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                  • DeryckAtlanta
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by revelated

                    Wrong.

                    WBO just got done threatening Herring, fresh after his fight.

                    They've threatened Joshua and Eddie multiple times even when Usyk wasn't calling.

                    They have NEVER threatened Crawford. That's BS.
                    Shakur Stevenson was 126lb WBO champ and moved up to become Herrings mandatory. Shakur Stevenson agreed to step aside for Herrings voluntary defense against Frampton, so naturally that is the fight to be made next. No matter how you slice it, they filed to be mandatory. I won't argue about Crawford not being threatened, but I also haven't seen any of the #1 ranked WBO welters say that they put in to be elevated to mandatory. Maybe we will see it in the upcoming months now that there is less politics involved in the current WBO challenger.

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                    • Divine Hammer
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by revelated

                      This is just like the guy that years ago said Canelo would never fight Callum Smith or Saunders.

                      Fast forward and I expose him, it's like "yeah but not impressed".

                      Same deal here. You're not fooling anyone. You'll never give Spence credit.
                      spence is a natural super middleweight picking on small fighters. he's a complete coward and will never ever reach true greatness.

                      thats fact. ur hero is a coward.

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