Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Thrilled With Ruling, Aims To Derail Fury-Joshua

[champion4ever]

You're contradicting yourself again. Either Shirley got the last laugh in because from his end the AJ/Fury fight can't happen because he made sure it didn't with this rematch, or Fury is ducking AJ. It can't be both.

I know you want to put the blame elsewhere and not in the direction of your Heavyweight bum in Wilder, but do so without the contradictions little man. You come off as weak and deranged, like you always do.

The fact is both Shirley Winkle and Tyson Fury got the last laugh on AJ and that's a fact. Remember when I said that the two sides working together in order to freeze AJ out?

However, you didn't believe Sidney. You doubted me. The truth is both Team Fury and Team Wilder were working on resolving this rematch clause since last December.

Fury never planned or intended on fighting Anthony Joshua next and that arbitration was just a mere a confidential negotiation. It never existed. It was all a sham.

You see Sid, you have a Brit in Tyson Fury who is more loyal to America than he is to Great Britain. Even his own dad has said that.

[billeau2]

Tell me what you think i've got wrong?

I lost the thread we were talking about Ali on as well. This new site is a pain in the arse to find things. Apologies.

No apology needed, half being tongue in cheek.

At the end of the day there are no promoters who are truly a benefit to boxing. They all are motivated by self interest. Its wrong to lionize Hearn, even if, per chance he is "right" in this situation... None of these guys deserve a pass. Due dillegence should always be done by all in a professional capacity.

If you want to say that Arum, given his history, is particularly egregious, I agree... He does have a history that makes him worse....King even more so imo.

Also, whether one likes Wilder, or not... All his actions, his behavior (that which we observe) seems to demonstrate that he wants another crack at the apple with Fury. It is worth mentioning as far as we know his group never requested a stand aside amount. All we can really go on is the behavior of indididuals/groups here. Wilder's group (Haymon, Hinkle) did not take to the media, only Wilder did... And his actions seem consistent with his statements on wanting to fight Fury again.

[Mickey Pearson]

Wow morons horrible handling of Wilders career. Turned down 100mill dazn deal gets KOd by fury. Refuses 5-20 mill step aside money for no punishment now will lose to fury for a 4th time probably receive career ending injuries and lowers his value and option on a Joshua fight later.

[Sid-Knee]

The arbitrator is the entire reason why Joshua vs Fury isn't happening. How can he be "neither here nor there?"

I'm talking about Wilder and Finkle's plans. Wilder doesn't want this fight, but he needs to convince his clown shoe fans he does. he either gets in there shaking like a leaf and mentally unprepared for this, or he comes up with something to get out of it. Anyone thinking that coward didn't ask Fury for step aside money is lying to themselves. But that's what you do. We make you do it and you f3cking hate it.

[Sid-Knee]

The fact is both Shirley Winkle and Tyson Fury got the last laugh on AJ and that's a fact. Remember when I said that the two sides working together in order to freeze AJ out?

However, you didn't believe Sidney. You doubted me. The truth is both Team Fury and Team Wilder were working on resolving this rematch clause since last December.

Fury never planned or intended on fighting Anthony Joshua next and that arbitration was just a mere a confidential negotiation. It never existed. It was all a sham.

You see Sid, you have a Brit in Tyson Fury who is more loyal to America than he is to Great Britain. Even his own dad has said that.

You're all over the place you mental midget. Go and get a life and do something productive with it. Don't be on here like Robin Williams in One Hour Photo.

Fury doesn't give a shlt about the US. Arum has his plans and his schemes. Fury just has to go with it. Nothing to do with loyalty you imbecile.

[champion4ever]

You're all over the place you mental midget. Go and get a life and do something productive with it. Don't be on here like Robin Williams in One Hour Photo.

Fury doesn't give a shlt about the US. Arum has his plans and his schemes. Fury just has to go with it. Nothing to do with loyalty you imbecile.

Then why is he here and why did he sign with Top Rank and ESPN?

[Sid-Knee]

No apology needed, half being tongue in cheek.

At the end of the day there are no promoters who are truly a benefit to boxing. They all are motivated by self interest. Its wrong to lionize Hearn, even if, per chance he is "right" in this situation... None of these guys deserve a pass. Due dillegence should always be done by all in a professional capacity.

If you want to say that Arum, given his history, is particularly egregious, I agree... He does have a history that makes him worse....King even more so imo.

Also, whether one likes Wilder, or not... All his actions, his behavior (that which we observe) seems to demonstrate that he wants another crack at the apple with Fury. It is worth mentioning as far as we know his group never requested a stand aside amount. All we can really go on is the behavior of indididuals/groups here. Wilder's group (Haymon, Hinkle) did not take to the media, only Wilder did... And his actions seem consistent with his statements on wanting to fight Fury again.

Making the fight the world wants is not a crime from Eddie's point of view. The mistake is believing a former lawyer who is spiteful and happy to f3ck him over any chance he gets like a little brat. What else do you think Eddie is guilty of? I want facts too. Be direct, not vague.

Wilder is a pathological liar and coward. Yet you think he really wants this fight? After everything he's done throughout the years? he did want that step aside because that is actually in tune with his behaviours. He just didn't want his weirdo fans to know it because he's been telling them he wants "Revenge" Haha.

Wilder gassed out because he was pacing his dressing room for over an hour due to not being able to handle his nerves. He was mentally frazzled. What do you think he's going to be like now knowing Fury can really hurt him and knock him out after claiming Fury had pillow for fists and couldn't hurt him before the rematch?

Sorry, but if you can't read the most obvious idiot on the planet in Wilder, then you've got no chance reading anyone. This dude is the biggest fraud boxing has ever had.

[Sid-Knee]

Then why is he here and why did he sign with Top Rank and ESPN?

Because he makes money in the US by being signed to Arum. Fury wouldn't sign with Eddie because he knows who he has to fight if he did.

[champion4ever]

Making the fight the world wants is not a crime from Eddie's point of view. The mistake is believing a former lawyer who is spiteful and happy to f3ck him over any chance he gets like a little brat. What else do you think Eddie is guilty of? I want facts too. Be direct, not vague.

Wilder is a pathological liar and coward. Yet you think he really wants this fight? After everything he's done throughout the years? he did want that step aside because that is actually in tune with his behaviours. He just didn't want his weirdo fans to know it because he's been telling them he wants "Revenge" Haha.

Wilder gassed out because he was pacing his dressing room for over an hour due to not being able to handle his nerves. He was mentally frazzled. What do you think he's going to be like now knowing Fury can really hurt him and knock him out after claiming Fury had pillow for fists and couldn't hurt him before the rematch?

Sorry, but if you can't read the most obvious idiot on the planet in Wilder, then you've got no chance reading anyone. This dude is the biggest fraud boxing has ever had.

Now this is true and something I can actually agree with. It's without question; Deontay was very tight and tense prior to the rematch in his dressing room. He was pacing the floor back and forth and couldn't sit still. Which perhaps explains why he was so tired and drained before the start of the first round against Tyson Fury. He blamed the heavy costume but it was actually him operating on raw nerve.

[billeau2]

Making the fight the world wants is not a crime from Eddie's point of view. The mistake is believing a former lawyer who is spiteful and happy to f3ck him over any chance he gets like a little brat. What else do you think Eddie is guilty of? I want facts too. Be direct, not vague.

Wilder is a pathological liar and coward. Yet you think he really wants this fight? After everything he's done throughout the years? he did want that step aside because that is actually in tune with his behaviours. He just didn't want his weirdo fans to know it because he's been telling them he wants "Revenge" Haha.

Wilder gassed out because he was pacing his dressing room for over an hour due to not being able to handle his nerves. He was mentally frazzled. What do you think he's going to be like now knowing Fury can really hurt him and knock him out after claiming Fury had pillow for fists and couldn't hurt him before the rematch?

Sorry, but if you can't read the most obvious idiot on the planet in Wilder, then you've got no chance reading anyone. This dude is the biggest fraud boxing has ever had.

Its not a matter of thinking Eddie is out of line. I believe that all these promoters do what they do in service to their client. Eddie is doing the things that would be best for Joshua because it is within his self interest. I don't think hearn, or any individual who deals with very exclusive contracts, can claim not to be aware that an arbitration decision could cause problems. That would be like Loyds of London, insuring a vehicle for a lot of money, then upon hearing the vehicle was damaged, claiming "wow! we never thought it would cost that much!" hearn's job is to know about any contingencies that could affect his fighter.

I don't know Wilder, or any of these fighters, I just look at consistency. For example, Fury says silly things, but consistently maintained he was skeptacle about the fight happening. he said that he was trusting the word of Arum. This is believable to me. fighters don't know about contract law, arbitration, etc. They do pay a lot for people to advise them on these matters. Wilder made a lot of excuses after his loss, he claimed all kinds of problems arose ... it showed that he was driven. Also Wilder is being advised by Hinkel and here is what I might imagine the issues to be: 1)If Wilder is/ is not put off by fighting fury again. 2) What Wilder's fans would say if he took step aside money, as compared to presenting himself as "above that" money, in his quest to dethrone fury. 3) Step aside would be for two fights, not one... so we are talking about a longer time in all probability 4) In that time Wilder could easily make more money and even if he loses, will still be an attractive opponent for Joshua Usyk, or other fighters who want to look good fighting a puncher. 5) The step aside money creates problems for Wilder that make fighting Joshua harder. Joshua has the two fight deal (as mentioned) might have obligations to fight Usyk, etc. Why not just take the fight with Fury? It is ultimately cleaner, more economically beneficial, and has the potential to make Wilder larger than life, or, at worse, basically where he was as an opponent before a loss to Fury.

Wilder might be crazy... But I think he is at least capable of listening to his team and this is why I say so: He never uttered a peep about the arbitration as it was coming to a head. I am quite sure Hinkel told him to zip it. Why do you hate Wilder so much? I mean I am not a fan of his, but you really find him that de****able?