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  • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    Its not a matter of thinking Eddie is out of line. I believe that all these promoters do what they do in service to their client. Eddie is doing the things that would be best for Joshua because it is within his self interest. I don't think hearn, or any individual who deals with very exclusive contracts, can claim not to be aware that an arbitration decision could cause problems. That would be like Loyds of London, insuring a vehicle for a lot of money, then upon hearing the vehicle was damaged, claiming "wow! we never thought it would cost that much!" hearn's job is to know about any contingencies that could affect his fighter.

    I don't know Wilder, or any of these fighters, I just look at consistency. For example, Fury says silly things, but consistently maintained he was skeptacle about the fight happening. he said that he was trusting the word of Arum. This is believable to me. fighters don't know about contract law, arbitration, etc. They do pay a lot for people to advise them on these matters. Wilder made a lot of excuses after his loss, he claimed all kinds of problems arose ... it showed that he was driven. Also Wilder is being advised by Hinkel and here is what I might imagine the issues to be: 1)If Wilder is/ is not put off by fighting fury again. 2) What Wilder's fans would say if he took step aside money, as compared to presenting himself as "above that" money, in his quest to dethrone fury. 3) Step aside would be for two fights, not one... so we are talking about a longer time in all probability 4) In that time Wilder could easily make more money and even if he loses, will still be an attractive opponent for Joshua Usyk, or other fighters who want to look good fighting a puncher. 5) The step aside money creates problems for Wilder that make fighting Joshua harder. Joshua has the two fight deal (as mentioned) might have obligations to fight Usyk, etc. Why not just take the fight with Fury? It is ultimately cleaner, more economically beneficial, and has the potential to make Wilder larger than life, or, at worse, basically where he was as an opponent before a loss to Fury.

    Wilder might be crazy... But I think he is at least capable of listening to his team and this is why I say so: He never uttered a peep about the arbitration as it was coming to a head. I am quite sure Hinkel told him to zip it. Why do you hate Wilder so much? I mean I am not a fan of his, but you really find him that de****able?
    So your constant disproval of Hearn comes down to him ******ly believing Arum when he said arbitration wasn't a problem? What about all the times before this? Be direct. If he's such a scum bag as you claim and not to be trusted, you should have clear and precise evidence to him being guilty. But when i ask people to provide such information, it isn't forth coming. Therefore, it's proof they're just slandering Hearn because he keeps on exposing Wilder and the like by giving them offers beyond what they generate but having them turned down. They don't like it when they're shown as cowards who just talk and want no action. It's fraud. But it's worse when they project their cowardice onto others and claim they're the ones who don't want the fight.

    You really need to ask why i hate Wilder? Really???????

    If you don't know by now, you never will.

    That's like asking me why i hate ****'s. It's a bizarre question where the answer is so painfully obvious. If you have to ask that question, i very much judge your capabilities on reading situations. Wilder is twisted in every grotesque way imaginable. He doesn't want to fight anyone. He just wants to slander them and project so he doesn't have to lose because his narcissism can't take it. We've seen this with the f3cked up situation with Fury. But he's always been like this. It's just Fury in the firing line this time.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      So your constant disproval of Hearn comes down to him ******ly believing Arum when he said arbitration wasn't a problem? What about all the times before this? Be direct. If he's such a scum bag as you claim and not to be trusted, you should have clear and precise evidence to him being guilty. But when i ask people to provide such information, it isn't forth coming. Therefore, it's proof they're just slandering Hearn because he keeps on exposing Wilder and the like by giving them offers beyond what they generate but having them turned down. They don't like it when they're shown as cowards who just talk and want no action. It's fraud. But it's worse when they project their cowardice onto others and claim they're the ones who don't want the fight.

      You really need to ask why i hate Wilder? Really???????

      If you don't know by now, you never will.

      That's like asking me why i hate ****'s. It's a bizarre question where the answer is so painfully obvious. If you have to ask that question, i very much judge your capabilities on reading situations. Wilder is twisted in every grotesque way imaginable. He doesn't want to fight anyone. He just wants to slander them and project so he doesn't have to lose because his narcissism can't take it. We've seen this with the f3cked up situation with Fury. But he's always been like this. It's just Fury in the firing line this time.
      Hearn would never depend on Arum for confirmation of information that directly affects Joshua. hearns knew the possibilities. He had people that were there to inform him of such possible outcomes. Never would call him "guilty." Promoters get paid when their fighters do, that is where there interest lies. Eddie and all promoters will attempt to sound like they have concerns for the integrity of boxing, the fans, etc... but this integrity always is limited to their fighter's interests.

      Wilder is entitled to have a crack at the apple. I don't know his character but we are talking about boxing, as Cus Amato said, 'the only legal place to commit homicide in the country is a boxing ring.' this was back before MMA lol. So while Wilder may not be a choir boy... I would wager a guess that men training to punch each other in the face, might have a lot of individuals of questionable character.

      And yes... Wilder does not like to lose, for what it is worth, I agree with you that this really irks him!

      I have no particular dissaproval for hearns though... I may joke about how some lionize him, I do find it amusing. The only people I truly despise are individuals who have claimed they knew this fight was a done deal and telling others how it was obvious... That irks me a bit lol. Strangely those people have not posted a while, go figure lol.
      Last edited by billeau2; 05-31-2021, 06:38 PM.

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      • Wilder is going to even be MORE EMBARRASSED. How many rounds has he won from Fury? Yea, That’s my point.

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        • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          Hearn would never depend on Arum for confirmation of information that directly affects Joshua. hearns knew the possibilities. He had people that were there to inform him of such possible outcomes. Never would call him "guilty." Promoters get paid when their fighters do, that is where there interest lies. Eddie and all promoters will attempt to sound like they have concerns for the integrity of boxing, the fans, etc... but this integrity always is limited to their fighter's interests.

          Wilder is entitled to have a crack at the apple. I don't know his character but we are talking about boxing, as Cus Amato said, 'the only legal place to commit homicide in the country is a boxing ring.' this was back before MMA lol. So while Wilder may not be a choir boy... I would wager a guess that men training to punch each other in the face, might have a lot of individuals of questionable character.

          And yes... Wilder does not like to lose, for what it is worth, I agree with you that this really irks him!

          I have no particular dissaproval for hearns though... I may joke about how some lionize him, I do find it amusing. The only people I truly despise are individuals who have claimed they knew this fight was a done deal and telling others how it was obvious... That irks me a bit lol. Strangely those people have not posted a while, go figure lol.
          Eddie should have taken a step back, but he's been trying to get this undisputed fight on for years now. I can understand the frustration. But yeah, believing Arum was a huge mistake when you take into consideration just how much Arum likes to score points against him whenever he can.

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            Eddie should have taken a step back, but he's been trying to get this undisputed fight on for years now. I can understand the frustration. But yeah, believing Arum was a huge mistake when you take into consideration just how much Arum likes to score points against him whenever he can.
            Arum is truly a bane on boxing. These guys all have their scope of influence on a fight/fighter but King and Arum over the years have been egregious to fighters. Mayweather would have been a fade if he did not get away from Arum for the De La Hoya fight...

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