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Bob Arum: Pacquiao/Crawford Failure Was OUR Fault, Not Manny. Crawford Doesn't Sell, Kudos To Haymon

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  • #31
    Crawford needs to KO his next opponent and not allow it to go to cards for any reason. Arum will fk him Jeff Horn style if he doesn't close the show.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Manny demanded 40 ml purse to fight Crawford and accepted 5 mill purse to fight Spence, sounds to me like Manny refused to budge with TC, what's the reason he wouldn't accept 5 ml for TC? Im positive TC vs Manny would sell just fine for a 5 mill purse instead of a noway can happen at 40mill,=.
      Again, as Arum CLEARLY has stated numerous times, Crawford is not a ppv seller. Why would Manny take a 5 million guarantee, with a split off ppv buys, when Arum himself is not confident the fight sells.

      Against Spence, Manny is taking a smaller guarantee, with a backend of ppv buys, because he thinks the fight will do good numbers. Get it?

      It's not that hard.
      Last edited by FLY TY; 08-06-2021, 08:59 AM.

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      • #33
        Why would Crawford not sell? He is skilled, he KO’s his opponents. He doesn’t use excessive clinching or running as part of his fighting technique.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Biolink View Post
          I'm thinking Bob's logic in offering Crawford the deal was righting his wrong with Mayweather years ago. Bud is a very gifted fighter, and he actually has a pretty fan friendly style, but he just doesn't have the charisma to be a breakthrough talent. I'm guessing he now see's that, because he sounds ready to move on. He should've offered Pac the money. I'm sure it would've paid itself back over time versus letting Bud fight all these unknowns for a pretty penny.
          No. He just wanted to stop Crawford from going to pbc to prevent them from unifying the ww division thorough a tourney.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by sargo View Post
            Why would Crawford not sell? He is skilled, he KO’s his opponents. He doesn’t use excessive clinching or running as part of his fighting technique.
            Because unlike many of you, there are some purists who see this and can't figure out why he's considered #1 P4P

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            Then tossing low blows on Amir Khan and can't spark the chin, got outboxed by Khan, Brook and Benavidez, was holding Kavaliauskas behind the head and hitting after getting two-pieced, wobbled and dropped as shown above...

            So we know he's a dirty fighter, and we suspect he's got a shaky chin.

            Meanwhile, he's openly refused (before the mandate) to fight Porter, Keef, and Ugas.

            Then told Spence "60-40 to me or NO FIGHT!" - meanwhile, Spence is fresh off beating his fourth Top 5 welterweight.

            I mean...at some point you guys gotta come around. You have to.
            FLY TY FLY TY likes this.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

              Former undisputed champs go down in history. PERIOD
              When Boxing was a mainstream sport yes but in today’s landscape with his current resume he would be quickly forgotten. He’d be below a Joe Calzaghe who is barely ever mentioned even on a hardcore boxing message board.
              Plus the light ww and welterweight divisions aren’t what they used to be.

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              • #37
                arum giving props to haymon.....ellerbe calling bud #1 p4p? could only mean one thing?!?!? were getting closer?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by QballLobo View Post

                  When Boxing was a mainstream sport yes but in today’s landscape with his current resume he would be quickly forgotten. He’d be below a Joe Calzaghe who is barely ever mentioned even on a hardcore boxing message board.
                  Plus the light ww and welterweight divisions aren’t what they used to be.
                  undisputed IS undisputed. Doesnt matter what was what or who wasnt. Its rare, its HISTORY making and warranted.

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                  • #39
                    I'm no legal expert and Bob is/was an attorney of some sort. Isn't the constant public slander some sort of breach of contract or libel? You can argue it he is proactively reducing Crawford's market value for future negotiations with another promotional outfit.

                    Bob is an old piece of ****.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
                      I'm no legal expert and Bob is/was an attorney of some sort. Isn't the constant public slander some sort of breach of contract or libel? You can argue it he is proactively reducing Crawford's market value for future negotiations with another promotional outfit.

                      Bob is an old piece of ****.
                      He wrote the contract (as they all do) where you can't badmouth the company, but the company has no such prohibition unless its something provably false.

                      We know Crawford can't sell for *ish.

                      We know Arum is losing money on him.

                      We know he's been ducking quality opposition, he openly did it on DAZN.

                      We know he doesn't want to do radio and self-promote, he said so himself.

                      Telling the truth is not libel (written) or slander (verbal).

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