Bob Arum: Pacquiao/Crawford Failure Was OUR Fault, Not Manny. Crawford Doesn't Sell, Kudos To Haymon

[FLY TY]

I would agree with u if Pac was 10 years younger. He isn’t though. Pac is going to be very dangerous for the first 4 rounds.
Crawford is really a 135 pounder. Spence is a more natural 154.
Manny’s FIRST CHOICE was Crawford for a reason.

So you DO agree with me. I'm not saying Paquiao thinks Spence is the easier fight. I'm saying he thinks Terence is. The Crawford fans/Spence haters are the ones that say otherwise.

[Combat Talk Radio]

So you DO agree with me. I'm not saying Paquiao thinks Spence is the easier fight. I'm saying he thinks Terence is. The Crawford fans/Spence haters are the ones that say otherwise.

Pacquiao saw Kavaliauskas put Crawford on his ass with a basic punch.

We all know what's up.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I can understand why Crawford signed with Top Rank again as a personal decision, that was good guaranteed money.

But overall his Top Rank deal is bad or boxing. Not interested in the BS fights Top Rank has to offer him.

Can't be too bad for boxing, look how many C-level fighters (according to BoMac) got paid for their services.

[Citizen Koba]

I'm thinking Bob's logic in offering Crawford the deal was righting his wrong with Mayweather years ago. Bud is a very gifted fighter, and he actually has a pretty fan friendly style, but he just doesn't have the charisma to be a breakthrough talent. I'm guessing he now see's that, because he sounds ready to move on. He should've offered Pac the money. I'm sure it would've paid itself back over time versus letting Bud fight all these unknowns for a pretty penny.

Really? I think Bob's decision to throw money at Bud had nothing to do with sentimentality and everything to do with his rivalry with PBC. I think all he wanted was to stop Haymon getting a lock on the US Welters and stop em making some of the most lucrative fights that could be made for the US market.

If he'd let Bud go to PBC it would have been a huge coup for them and signalled a significant shift in the US power balance. I think denying that to PBC was worth quite a few $ mil to the old snake, and **** the fans.

I don't blame Bud for taking the money put in front of him and I don't blame Bob for being a businessman - end of the day part of his job is to **** over his business rivals - but it is just one more example of how and why the sport needs a complete overhaul. **** sucks for everyone.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Really? I think Bob's decision to throw money at Bud had nothing to do with sentimentality and everything to do with his rivalry with PBC. I think all he wanted was to stop Haymon getting a lock on the US Welters and stop em making some of the most lucrative fights that could be made for the US market.

If he'd let Bud go to PBC it would have been a huge coup for them and signalled a significant shift in the US power balance. I think denying that to PBC was worth quite a few $ mil to the old snake, and **** the fans.

I don't blame Bud for taking the money put in front of him and I don't blame Bob for being a businessman - end of the day part of his job is to **** over his business rivals - but it is just one more example of how and why the sport needs a complete overhaul. **** sucks for everyone.

But the problem is Arum constantly using PBC fighters' names, throwing them out constantly as if there's a chance, then offering flat $1 million, and it's obvious why: he wants them to turn it down so he can say "well I tried but they're too expensive".

And my issue is, when that happens, people on this very board fall for it every time.

[maguirre]

So it's not Pacquiao's fault the fight with Crawford didn't happen. But why do I keep hearing this thing about Pacquiao demanding $40 million? Arum wanted the fight in Abu Dabi, but he ran out of time negotiating for that fight. The TR chief later said on a separate video that he could have made the fight in Vegas, but that it was risky. Whatever that means.

[just the facts]

So it's not Pacquiao's fault the fight with Crawford didn't happen. But why do I keep hearing this thing about Pacquiao demanding $40 million? Arum wanted the fight in Abu Dabi, but he ran out of time negotiating for that fight. The TR chief later said on a separate video that he could have made the fight in Vegas, but that it was risky. Whatever that means.

It's pretty obvious what it means. It means Arum thought he would lose money.

[El_Mero]

Reportedly Bud’s deal with Arum is up in October. Bob has repeatedly said he’s losing money on Bud and can’t pay to make big fights because Bud can’t sell.
If he stays with Top Rank then he’s clearly ducking the big fights and hiding behind his promoter.
Leave TR and take some legacy fights or take the easy route and retire as a “what if” fighter and be quickly forgotten. His choice.

Former undisputed champs go down in history. PERIOD

[MONGOOSE66]

Serious question.

When is the #2 P4P going to STOP letting this old MF'er cuck him publicly like this?

Well, I give props for Bob being HONEST. Not to common now a days by ANYONE.

[Roadblock]

Let the idiots on NSB tell it, Paquiao wants to fight Spence because he believes he has a better chance than against Crawford. Nothing to do with money.

Manny demanded 40 ml purse to fight Crawford and accepted 5 mill purse to fight Spence, sounds to me like Manny refused to budge with TC, what's the reason he wouldn't accept 5 ml for TC? Im positive TC vs Manny would sell just fine for a 5 mill purse instead of a noway can happen at 40mill,=.