How do you rate Fury's power?

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  • NEETzschean
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    #31
    Originally posted by Madison boxing
    its nothing special, theres always been question marks about bum squads chin, grandpa nearly had him out of there in the first fight
    The last thing to go is your power and southpaw power puncher Ortiz had KO'd Jennings in the 7th round 2 years prior. The fact that Wilder took as many clean shots as he did was testament to the strength of his chin.

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    • elfag
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      #32
      Originally posted by billeau2

      interesting factoid: Big men don't tend to be devistating punchers. For a big men Fury actually has decent power. Think about some big guys at heavyweight: Valuev, Canera, Bone Crusher, etc... That smoking hot female boxer who hit the punching machine in Vegas and broke it? She was 150ish pounds and probably generates what Fury does! (kidding).


      yeah its amazing that a guy the size of valuev or fury can even be an elite level boxer and have the stamina for 12 rounds. The huge guys tend to be more arm punchers and tend to have a style that is going to favor stamina. If just being a giant was all it took to be a heavyweight champion, then we would see a lot more of these 6'8'' and up guys who are 260-300 lbs but we never see them. They are either slow, uncordinated or dont have the stamina.

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      • NEETzschean
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        #33
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

        Vitali stopped opponents by accumulation. Wlad had far superior punching power. How many of Fury's KO's were actually KO's where a fighter couldn't beat the count? Far less than guys like Whyte because he doesn't hit as hard. Stay off boxrec kid it shows you're a newb.
        All of these stats are on boxrec lol. Whyte may be a bigger puncher than Fury overall but he has faced inferior opposition, is more aggressive and still has a lower KO ratio. So either Whyte is a non-puncher with his 60% KO ratio or Fury is underrated.

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        • NEETzschean
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          #34
          Originally posted by elfag



          yeah its amazing that a guy the size of valuev or fury can even be an elite level boxer and have the stamina for 12 rounds. The huge guys tend to be more arm punchers and tend to have a style that is going to favor stamina. If just being a giant was all it took to be a heavyweight champion, then we would see a lot more of these 6'8'' and up guys who are 260-300 lbs but we never see them. They are either slow, uncordinated or dont have the stamina.
          This is very true. The bigger the man, the less speed, agility, reflexes, co-ordination, balance and stamina he tends to have. Fury is freakish in this regard because he has many of the cruiserweight/small heavyweight advantages while also being the biggest elite super-heavyweight of all time and he punches harder than 320 lbs Valuev.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

            Vitali had a KO ratio higher than his brother but he hit nowhere near as hard. KO% doesn't tell you how hard a fighter punches.

            Vitali had heavy hands. Yeah KO% doesnt tell you their one punch power.

            Rafael Marquez was similar, he had heavy hands but not big one punch power. He has 90% stoppage rate because most guys got broken down.

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            • mxtali
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              #36
              Pretty damn overrated after Wilder 2. He went from being a pillow puncher to some machine that can stop anyone at heavyweight. His punches are sloppy as hell. He caught Wlad with punches he didn’t even see coming and barely fazed him

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                #37
                Originally posted by mxtali
                Pretty damn overrated after Wilder 2. He went from being a pillow puncher to some machine that can stop anyone at heavyweight. His punches are sloppy as hell. He caught Wlad with punches he didn’t even see coming and barely fazed him
                Fury's genius in the Wlad fight was not his punches... yes they were sloppy as hell. It was how Fury feinted, timed Wlad out of throwing his jab, and was able to entirely throw Wlad's timing off. Fury proved a point that most casual fans neglect 100% of the time: When dealing with an opponent of any sort it is not only asserting your own strengths but how you are able to nullify their strengths as well!

                Perfect example, Hopkins against Trinidad. Trinidad is an A1 puncher... beating Trinidad convincingly (as Hopkins did) has to include stopping his punch. Fury shut Wlad down... He could have won a few rounds throwing less than 5 punches.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  I would say he hits as hard as Floyd did at 140-47. You can't sleep on his power and he can hurt you if you take liberties. He will stop some guys through accumulation and breaking them down - his main issue is not completely power in my opinion, its more to do with technique and his delivery. He is not an overly gifted offensive fighter (crazy to say, but true).

                  He is also a left handed orthodox fighter, guys like Barrera and Oscar who were the same had great jabs and carried good power in their left hook, Fury has a great jab but for whatever reason doesn't have the left hook.

                  Having said all of that he hits plenty hard enough
                  I disagree, Mayweather could visibly stun and deter fighters with single punches.

                  Fury does not really at elite level, stun or deter fighters with single punches.

                  It is more so the awkwardness and dimensions of Fury which deter his opponents, not his power.

                  Even the knock downs against Wilder, where mainly caused by Wilder himself being off balance etc

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                  • sunny31
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                    I disagree, Mayweather could visibly stun and deter fighters with single punches.

                    Fury does not really at elite level, stun or deter fighters with single punches.

                    It is more so the awkwardness and dimensions of Fury which deter his opponents, not his power.

                    Even the knock downs against Wilder, where mainly caused by Wilder himself being off balance etc
                    You obviously haven't seen Fury fight too much, he put Wilder over with a single right hand and HURT him.

                    He has stopped others in their tracks or hurt them with single punches. Normally his left hand out of the southpaw stance.

                    He wore down and stopped Chisora and Hammer, some really big punchers have not been able to do that since.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #40
                      Who else was able to stop Wilder?

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