How do you rate Fury's power?

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  • NEETzschean
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    #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

    Weight drained is when fighters dehydrate to make weight. Are you a newb? There you go with excuses again and deflecting. Fury is feather fisted for his size. Everyone can see it apart from you.
    A fighter can be weight-drained (fighting below their natural weight) from cutting their intake of food and water, spending too much time in the sauna or by overtraining.

    An elephant is not as strong as an ant for his size but he still squashes the ant. It would be a good thing for Fury for his opponents to underrate his power but they are not as dumb as you are. If AJ is wary of the likes of Parker and Ruiz, Fury's power will have an even greater effect on him.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #22
      Originally posted by NEETzschean

      Valuev was typically 320 lbs and fought bummier opposition but only had a 62% KO ratio against 215+ lbs heavyweights. Whyte averages about 255 lbs and has also fought bummier opposition but has a 60% KO ratio against 215+ lbs heavyweights, while being much more aggressive stylistically than Fury.

      Saying Fury is "feather-fisted for a super-heavy" is like saying "the ant is stronger than the elephant for its size", when the elephant squashes the ant. Fury doesn't have Wlad, Hrgovic or Makhmudov power but he punches hard enough to gain anyone's respect and stop the likes of Wilder and AJ.
      Whyte has fought more top 10 fighters than Fury "bummier opposition" though. You're a clown. When Fury stops a guy it's very rare it's actually a KO. Whyte clearly hits harder than Fury. B...b..boxrec though.

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      • NEETzschean
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        #23
        Originally posted by thetruthteller
        A Fury fan will say that he has power and point to the Wilder fight. But in reality, he is neither feather fisted, nor a powerful heavyweight. He is good enough, but his resume of lower level competition will never truly show you what he is worth. Similar to Wilder, except Wilder beat his bums by KO. Whereas Fury beat most of his bums by decision. The truth is, had either of them fought better competition consistently, they both would have bean beaten or KOed numerous times by now.
        If Fury has a 68% KO ratio overall, how did he beat most of the bums he faced by decision? Fury's KO ratio against bums (loosely defined) is 77%.

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          #24
          Originally posted by NEETzschean

          A fighter can be weight-drained (fighting below their natural weight) from cutting their intake of food and water, spending too much time in the sauna or by overtraining.

          An elephant is not as strong as an ant for his size but he still squashes the ant. It would be a good thing for Fury for his opponents to underrate his power but they are not as dumb as you are. If AJ is wary of the likes of Parker and Ruiz, Fury's power will have an even greater effect on him.
          No a fighter is weight drained when he's weakened by dehydrating to make weight. You're obviously a newb, not knowing this and using boxrec for arguments, so i'll leave you be.

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            #25
            Originally posted by NEETzschean

            If Fury has a 68% KO ratio overall, how did he beat most of the bums he faced by decision? Fury's KO ratio against bums (loosely defined) is 77%.
            Vitali had a KO ratio higher than his brother but he hit nowhere near as hard. KO% doesn't tell you how hard a fighter punches.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #26
              its nothing special, theres always been question marks about bum squads chin, grandpa nearly had him out of there in the first fight

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              • NEETzschean
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                #27
                The ranking system in boxing doesn't take amateur pedigree into account, places too much of an emphasis on long past achievements and is subject to political considerations. The version of Povetkin that Whyte beat would lose to any top 30 heavyweight, Rivas's resume isn't even as impressive as Ortiz's, Fury beat Chisora twice and far more comfortably than Whyte did and Parker (who Whyte needed the referee and officials to beat) got a gift against Chisora. Has Whyte ever actually beaten a genuine top 10 heavyweight? Even out of the 5 fights he had against these opponents, he got 2 KO's. 2/3 of Whyte's resume consists of bums. If Whyte was a significantly bigger puncher than Fury overall he would have a much higher KO ratio as he has faced inferior opposition and is more aggressive than Fury.

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                • NEETzschean
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                  No a fighter is weight drained when he's weakened by dehydrating to make weight. You're obviously a newb, not knowing this and using boxrec for arguments, so i'll leave you be.
                  You have a pea-brain and are unable to think outside a particular context. If a fighter sheds weight and fights below his natural weight, he is weight-drained.

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                  • NEETzschean
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                    Vitali had a KO ratio higher than his brother but he hit nowhere near as hard. KO% doesn't tell you how hard a fighter punches.
                    Vitali fought bummier opponents and was more aggressive. KO % doesn't tell you everything but it's not irrelevant either. It's no surprise that Wlad had a very high KO % while Paulie Malignaggi had a very low KO %.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NEETzschean

                      Vitali fought bummier opponents and was more aggressive. KO % doesn't tell you everything but it's not irrelevant either. It's no surprise that Wlad had a very high KO % while Paulie Malignaggi had a very low KO %.
                      Vitali stopped opponents by accumulation. Wlad had far superior punching power. How many of Fury's KO's were actually KO's where a fighter couldn't beat the count? Far less than guys like Whyte because he doesn't hit as hard. Stay off boxrec kid it shows you're a newb.

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