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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #11
    Originally posted by NEETzschean
    Let's deal with facts:

    - Fury is the only fighter to KO Cunningham (210 lbs) and did so in the 7th round
    - Fury retired durable journeymen Chisora (241.5 lbs) and Hammer (248 lbs, dropped him in the 5th) in the 10th and 8th rounds respectively while fighting on the backfoot
    - Fury had Wilder (231 llbs, who took everything that southpaw power puncher Ortiz threw at him) legitimately on the canvas 3 times prior to the 7th round TKO
    - Fury has a 68% KO ratio against 215+ lbs opponents and this is while often fighting on the backfoot and being happy to go to points, either to gain fitness or mitigate risk

    When Fury; a natural 6'8, 270+ lbs super-heavyweight, is fit, motivated and looks to take his opponent out, he easily has the power to do so.
    He was trying to take Wallin out. "easily has the power" though.

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    • NEETzschean
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      #12
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

      He was trying to take Wallin out. "easily has the power" though.
      Fury was weight-drained (254.5 lbs) overtrained (at Davidson's behest) unmotivated as he was overlooking Wallin, thinking he would be another Tom Schwarz and was fighting for three quarters of the fight with one fully functional eye.

      Who has stopped Wallin? Granat and Breazeale are big punchers but they didn't come remotely close over 12. No one has even dropped him. All of the evidence we have suggests that Wallin is a lot more durable than AJ, who was splattered all over the ring and made to quit by a non-puncher in fat Andy.
      Last edited by NEETzschean; 05-30-2021, 11:00 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by NEETzschean

        Fury was weight-drained (254.5 lbs) overtrained (at Davidson's behest) unmotivated as he was overlooking Wallin, thinking he would be another Tom Schwarz and was fighting for three quarters of the fight with one fully functional eye.

        Who has stopped Wallin? Breazeale is a big puncher and he didn't come remotely close over 12. No one has even dropped him. All the evidence we have suggests that Wallin is a lot more durable than AJ, who was splattered all over the ring and made to quit by a non-puncher in fat Andy.
        Why would a HW be weight drained? You obviously don't know what that means. Fury is a non puncher, weaker than Ruiz, you only have to watch their fights to know that. All i hear are excuses where's the evidence. He couldn't finish Wilder whom was falling over by himself. FFS.

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        • NorvernRob
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          #14
          Originally posted by NEETzschean
          Let's deal with facts:

          - Fury is the only fighter to KO Cunningham (210 lbs) and did so in the 7th round
          - Fury retired durable journeymen Chisora (241.5 lbs) and Hammer (248 lbs, dropped him in the 5th) in the 10th and 8th rounds respectively while fighting on the backfoot
          - Fury had Wilder (231 llbs, who took everything that southpaw power puncher Ortiz threw at him) legitimately on the canvas 3 times prior to the 7th round TKO
          - Fury has a 68% KO ratio against 215+ lbs opponents and this is while often fighting on the backfoot and being happy to go to points, either to gain fitness or mitigate risk

          When Fury; a natural 6'8, 270+ lbs super-heavyweight, is fit, motivated and looks to take his opponent out, he easily has the power to do so.
          He’s feather fisted for a super heavy. Anyone that big who hits hard and fights 99% bums would have a much higher KO ratio.

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          • DaNeutral.
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            He is a big heavy clubber and you get repeatedly clubbed it’s guna take its toll. But he’s no 1 hitter quitter, he don’t put ppl to sleep. It’s below average for the standard Heavyweight power I would say.

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            • NEETzschean
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              #16
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

              Why would a HW be weight drained? You obviously don't know what that means. Fury is a non puncher, weaker than Ruiz, you only have to watch their fights to know that. All i hear are excuses where's the evidence. He couldn't finish Wilder whom was falling over by himself. FFS.
              Fury was weight-drained because Davidson wanted him to be light (for increased mobility). If Joe Joyce hypothetically came in 20 lbs lighter, he would be weight-drained even though he would be nowhere near the cruiserweight limit. You are clearly not very intelligent. Fury smothered Wilder as soon as he had him hurt; the plan was to drain his gas tank and nullify any potential threat. On the other hand, AJ almost had grandpa Pulev out of there in the 3rd, only to gas out and let him back into the fight, taking just over 6 additional rounds to take him out. For a supposed power puncher AJ hasn't KO'd anyone in the first half of a fight since Charles Martin (lmao) and needed a fake stoppage against Takam; a guy who Povetkin and Chisora KO'd clean.

              I doubt you've watched more than Ruiz's last three fights but just look at his record: he's gone the distance in 8 out of his last 13 fights, predominately against chinny journeymen like Siarhei Liakhovich, Joell Godfrey, Raphael Zumbano, Franklin Lawrence and 40 year old Chris Arreola. He's an aggressive, front-foot counter-puncher with a KO ratio of 62% against 215+ lbs opponents. Like Joseph Parker (whose power AJ was also wary of) Ruiz is clearly a lighter, less effective puncher than Fury going by the stats and styles.

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                #17
                Originally posted by NEETzschean

                Fury was weight-drained because Davidson wanted him to be light (for increased mobility). If Joe Joyce hypothetically came in 20 lbs lighter, he would be weight-drained even though he would be nowhere near the cruiserweight limit. You are clearly not very intelligent. Fury smothered Wilder as soon as he had him hurt; the plan was to drain his gas tank and nullify any potential threat. On the other hand, AJ almost had grandpa Pulev out of there in the 3rd, only to gas out and let him back into the fight, taking just over 6 additional rounds to take him out. For a supposed power puncher AJ hasn't KO'd anyone in the first half of a fight since Charles Martin (lmao) and needed a fake stoppage against Takam; a guy who Povetkin and Chisora KO'd clean.

                I doubt you've watched more than Ruiz's last three fights but just look at his record: he's gone the distance in 8 out of his last 13 fights, predominately against chinny journeymen like Siarhei Liakhovich, Joell Godfrey, Raphael Zumbano, Franklin Lawrence and 40 year old Chris Arreola. He's an aggressive, front-foot counter-puncher with a KO ratio of 62% against 215+ lbs opponents. Like Joseph Parker (whose power AJ was also wary of) Ruiz is clearly a lighter, less effective puncher than Fury going by the stats and styles.
                Weight drained is when fighters dehydrate to make weight. Are you a newb? There you go with excuses again and deflecting. Fury is feather fisted for his size. Everyone can see it apart from you.

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                • Skip Bayless
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                  #18
                  average to slightly under average. but he is 270lbs so it doesn't matter

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                  • thetruthteller
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                    #19
                    A Fury fan will say that he has power and point to the Wilder fight. But in reality, he is neither feather fisted, nor a powerful heavyweight. He is good enough, but his resume of lower level competition will never truly show you what he is worth. Similar to Wilder, except Wilder beat his bums by KO. Whereas Fury beat most of his bums by decision. The truth is, had either of them fought better competition consistently, they both would have bean beaten or KOed numerous times by now.

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                    • NEETzschean
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by NorvernRob

                      He’s feather fisted for a super heavy. Anyone that big who hits hard and fights 99% bums would have a much higher KO ratio.
                      Valuev was typically 320 lbs and fought bummier opposition but only had a 62% KO ratio against 215+ lbs heavyweights. Whyte averages about 255 lbs and has also fought bummier opposition but has a 60% KO ratio against 215+ lbs heavyweights, while being much more aggressive stylistically than Fury.

                      Saying Fury is "feather-fisted for a super-heavy" is like saying "the ant is stronger than the elephant for its size", when the elephant squashes the ant. Fury doesn't have Wlad, Hrgovic or Makhmudov power but he punches hard enough to gain anyone's respect and stop the likes of Wilder and AJ.

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