IMO Pac is taking Spence fight to make up for Mayweather loss

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #51
    Originally posted by SplitSecond

    How do you go out on your shield if the other guy is just running away?
    Robbie is a re tard

    Always has been

    The only reason I remember him is because he's so re tarded

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    • Toyman
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      #52
      Originally posted by daggum

      where are all these counters though? that simply didnt happen. pac actually had far better counters than floyd. if you go through it round by round you can see pac landed far more clean punches while floyd mostly landed a very weak grazing jab. dont think that is good enough to win we have the video so not sure how you can come on here and say that floyd was landing great counters when that didnt happen. you seem to be scoring based on what you thought pac could do not what actually happened between the two fighters. which fighter did better when they fought each other? not did pac do as good as he did vs margarito or clottey or someone else. that would be like saying floyd didnt fight pac the way he fought corley so i guess pac made him scared and pac won! thats not how you score fights.

      watch round 7. dominant pac round...all the judges gave it to floyd. floyd landed one solid jab that rocked pacs head back, and about 4 other mediocre/low quality jabs with nothing on them. pac landed a huge left hand counter(i thought floyd was the counter puncher), a big left to the body that doubled floyd over and forced him to hold, another decent left counter to the head, a big right that rocked floyd head around, 2 more good rights that moved floyds head(notice how i say moved its because almost none of floyds jabs moved pacs head at all) and 2 more rights that were decent. he landed more clean punches but the quality of his punches was ten times better. round to floyd according to you and the judges. thats just bad judging if you think floyd won that round. i can understand missing it on first viewing but i assume you have seen the fight many times now? a lot of the rounds were just like this. floyd couldnt really get much going offensively and pac just had the much better shots. for what reason would floyd deserve to win based on that?

      you want to give floyd credit for some great performance but he stunk out the place and was hesitant for almost the entire fight. when pac started landing floyds offense diminished to nothing more than a weak jab with no leverage that almost never landed cleanly. he snuck in a nice shot every now and then but yeah he was not countering pac every time pac attacked. he was too busy focusing on moving away which is why he had no leverage or body weight in the few punches he did connect on. pac had the leverage and body weight and the clean punches. floyd doenst win just becasue its a tactical fight. he still had to put in the good clean work and unfortunately for him he did not. it was a bad decision on a boxing basis and if you watch it back its pretty clear to see. this is no pac-marquez back and forth type action. its one guy landing cleanly and the other guy not really landing much clean at all. not the hardest type of fight to score unless you get really emotional about one guy...


      Agreed on everything.


      Round 3,4,6,7,10,12 - no idea how anyone could possibly score these for floyd.

      Other than 1 or 2 rounds that floyd won, the remaining rounds were 50-50.

      floyd fans are content with the corrupt/incompetent judging, and have yet to offer any credible challenge on the numerous videos posted showing manny clearly outlanding floyd.

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      • KillaMane26
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        #53
        I think he said fck it after not getting the Conor $ fight

        Or else he would have took the fight after Mikey lose to Spence

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        • strykr619
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          #54
          Originally posted by just the facts

          Bu!!shyte, it's about money just like every other boxing match throughout. Nothing wrong with that.
          LOL no he is already set financially, more money is good but legacy is more important to him.

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          • IceTrayDaGang
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            #55
            live by the balut... die by the balut..

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            • just the facts
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              #56
              Originally posted by strykr619

              LOL no he is already set financially, more money is good but legacy is more important to him.
              Set financially? Not from the reports. But it's your story, tell it anyway you want.

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              • spytactics
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                #57
                Mayweather, Bradley, and Horn didn’t beat Pac. The judges beat Pac. All of those rulings were highly questionable…and in a highly corrupt sport like boxing, I’m sure there was more to those Pac losses

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by spytactics
                  Mayweather, Bradley, and Horn didn’t beat Pac. The judges beat Pac. All of those rulings were highly questionable…and in a highly corrupt sport like boxing, I’m sure there was more to those Pac losses
                  What you score depends solely on the knowledge and eyes you have, the vast majority of fans know very little yet make out they know for a fact lol .

                  Floyd won the fight and all the fan BS in the world will never change it, ONLY Manny fanboys call for a rematch while the rest of the world including the fighters trainers historians commentators and media don't want it the result will be the same they all know Floyd won easily.

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                  • daggum
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    What you score depends solely on the knowledge and eyes you have, the vast majority of fans know very little yet make out they know for a fact lol .

                    Floyd won the fight and all the fan BS in the world will never change it, ONLY Manny fanboys call for a rematch while the rest of the world including the fighters trainers historians commentators and media don't want it the result will be the same they all know Floyd won easily.
                    your eyes must not be working too well. thats a shame. braille keyboard? i salute your dedication. floyd easily won even though pac landed the much cleaner harder punches? it just doesnt add up and gives away your extreme bias. you cant easily win when one guy lands head rocking punches and all you land is a little grazing jab that doesn't move him one bit. floyds own corner said he was losing after 10 rounds so mathematically he couldn't win according to them. pretty silly really to try and pretend floyd put on some great boxing display in that fight. he didnt. ironically one of the reasons he didnt is because he was so entitled and knew people like you were out there and would pretend like he did even if he didnt! pac was clearly much better than he thought he would be and so he didnt take any risks and ran out the clock but the name of the game is clean punching and he lost that one by huge margins.

                    it is a bit strange seeing how many people think floyd won given his weak performance. i would have expected more of a split but i think the american commentating definitely influenced people as the commentators created a narrative of pac not being able to get to floyd(when thats not the point of boxing) the point is to land the better punches which he was doing so why would he have to "get to floyd" or "press the fight" so he was getting to floyd just not in the way they thought he would maidana style or something. very bizarre but thats why you see lots of foreign media who thought pac won and not as many american media. they were all watching through the same lens. really bad commentary and not an accurate depiction of what was happening in the fight from a clean punching stand point. they distracted people with "this is boring i guess floyd is winning" instead of breaking down that pac was making floyd hesitant to throw and picking him off with clean shots which is backed up with the video. floyd knows what happened in that ring cause he felt all of pacs shots and knew he was not connecting clean. thats why he avoided the rematch. i dont think grazing a guys nose with a tickle jab is going to make someone think they won a fight no matter how much of a narcissist they are.

                    Last edited by daggum; 07-03-2021, 05:54 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      where are all these counters though? that simply didnt happen. pac actually had far better counters than floyd. if you go through it round by round you can see pac landed far more clean punches while floyd mostly landed a very weak grazing jab. dont think that is good enough to win we have the video so not sure how you can come on here and say that floyd was landing great counters when that didnt happen. you seem to be scoring based on what you thought pac could do not what actually happened between the two fighters. which fighter did better when they fought each other? not did pac do as good as he did vs margarito or clottey or someone else. that would be like saying floyd didnt fight pac the way he fought corley so i guess pac made him scared and pac won! thats not how you score fights.

                      watch round 7. dominant pac round...all the judges gave it to floyd. floyd landed one solid jab that rocked pacs head back, and about 4 other mediocre/low quality jabs with nothing on them. pac landed a huge left hand counter(i thought floyd was the counter puncher), a big left to the body that doubled floyd over and forced him to hold, another decent left counter to the head, a big right that rocked floyd head around, 2 more good rights that moved floyds head(notice how i say moved its because almost none of floyds jabs moved pacs head at all) and 2 more rights that were decent. he landed more clean punches but the quality of his punches was ten times better. round to floyd according to you and the judges. thats just bad judging if you think floyd won that round. i can understand missing it on first viewing but i assume you have seen the fight many times now? a lot of the rounds were just like this. floyd couldnt really get much going offensively and pac just had the much better shots. for what reason would floyd deserve to win based on that?

                      you want to give floyd credit for some great performance but he stunk out the place and was hesitant for almost the entire fight. when pac started landing floyds offense diminished to nothing more than a weak jab with no leverage that almost never landed cleanly. he snuck in a nice shot every now and then but yeah he was not countering pac every time pac attacked. he was too busy focusing on moving away which is why he had no leverage or body weight in the few punches he did connect on. pac had the leverage and body weight and the clean punches. floyd doenst win just becasue its a tactical fight. he still had to put in the good clean work and unfortunately for him he did not. it was a bad decision on a boxing basis and if you watch it back its pretty clear to see. this is no pac-marquez back and forth type action. its one guy landing cleanly and the other guy not really landing much clean at all. not the hardest type of fight to score unless you get really emotional about one guy...
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