Who hit harder p4p?

[WetSexyLlamaPR]

i am a nuthugger and a fan of the sport, see im honest about it. rather be one than a 'yes-man'

Don't worry about him. A bum who accuses you of being a Pac nuthugger for being logical enough to see Pac is a harder puncher than Naz is an idiot. They can't debate with through logic and reason so they accuse you of nuthugging.

We'll never know as Hamed never traveled the weights like Pac did, but based on what I've seen from Hamed..

I'm going with him.

This logic is breathtakingly ******. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. You rank Naz higher based off what you "think" he could have done in the higher weight classes whereas Manny has proven time and again what he can do in terms of punching power in lower and higher weight classes against much better opposition than Naz ever faced.

Nazeem got a ton of bum KO's in one weight class, 126. As soon as he faced a great fighter his power was nowhere to be seen.

Manny has KO'd good to great fighters at 112, 122, 126, 135, 140 and 147. Until Nazeem does that and better, no, he will not go down as a harder puncher than Pac. Pac will go down because Pac did. Nazeem won't go down because Nazeem didn't.

You don't get ranked higher than someone by what you could have done or didn't do. You get ranked by what you did. If you can't comprehend this then you have a learning disability and/or the IQ of an amoeba.

[KILLA RIGHT]

hameds so called 'punching power" got sonned by barrera...

We are talking power. PAc must not have power if he lost to morales then?. shavers lost 14 times but he is known to be the best puncher to many people in the heavy div not the greatest boxer. It's who had better power. Ali must of had more power then shavers according to u

[JAB5239]

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i just cant see it. im not flip nor brit, but i do love pac & i do hate hamed.

but considering almost every fight that pac is in, the fighters from 112 to 147
almost everyone of them are either;

bleeding, cut, knocked down, nose broken, & rendered unconscious. Take the much maligned oscar & david diaz wins. everybody ****s on the the diaz win as if he was a nobody but this is a guy who has a very very good chin. he beat zab judah at the olympic trials, ktfo santa cruz, & went 8 very game rounds before getting tko'd by a heavy handed kendall holt.

the oscar win, weight drained or not, got wobbled by pacquiao & his face was swollen.

could hamed equal these things?

I dont think so.

as for manny steward saying he punches hard, of course he trained him. he will have a favorable opinion on naz's punching power. he has worked the mitts with him. now if steward also did the same with pac & he still said naz hits harder then i defer.

But he has done those things with the other fighters I named and still claimed Naz as the hardest puncher he ever worked with p4p. Believe me, when I first read that there was no way I could believe Hamed was a harder puncher than Hearns. But why would Steward feel the need to say something like that if he didn't actually believe it?

[Spray_resistant]

hameds so called 'punching power" got sonned by barrera...

Nothing to do with the thread you are making yourself look foolish posting in a thread like this with a name like that bringing up irrelevant points.

[RodBarker]

this one is a toughy... Naseem never fought the type of competition Pacquiao has though so his power can be questioned as to wether it was due to who he was fighting & Pacquiao has carried his power through multiple weight classes though so I'll have to go with Pacquiao.

You got it , knocking over Barney Rubble might look impressive but then thats what hype is all about aint it .

[We want Floyd]

Pacquiao is today, Hamed yesterday. But who hit harder between the two p4p? No nuthuggery or hate, just objectiveness.

Rather than asking who hit harder P4P.

Why not ask, who faced fighters with the tougher chins?

as someone had pointed out, Hamed gives the impression that he's the harder puncher due to the level of competition.

For example, MAB alone, I don't care how hard you punch, you simply were not gonna get him outta there with one shot!

Look at the grade A chins that PAC has faced, Sasakul had never been ko'd, Ledwaba was only dropped early in his career prior to facing PAC, MAB only been tko'd by two fighters, Erika only been dropped by PAC, Juanita only PAC was able to drop him. What do these fighters all have in common? They were all world-champs!

And yes, PAC was the harder puncher, even at 126lbs. The only way you can compare is by using a common opponent, which was MAB!

[DonTaseMeBrah]

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you never even seeen prince fight ,bro be honest.pac carried good power to the higher classes, but his one punch power can't **** with prince. PAC WILL DESTROY WITH SPEED AND POWER BUT NAZ JUST NEEDED 1 SHOT[/QUOTE]

This is what Im talking about right here. Outside of the Hatton fight this is exactly what Manny's ko's were based on. Not the one punch power like Hamed had.

126, 3k battery



122, lucero



112, sasakul

[KILLA RIGHT]

Rather than asking who hit harder P4P.

Why not ask, who faced fighters with the tougher chins?

as someone had pointed out, Hamed gives the impression that he's the harder puncher due to the level of competition.

For example, MAB alone, I don't care how hard you punch, you simply were not gonna get him outta there with one shot!

Look at the grade A chins that PAC has faced, Sasakul had never been ko'd, Ledwaba was only dropped early in his career prior to facing PAC, MAB only been tko'd by two fighters, Erika only been dropped by PAC, Juanita only PAC was able to drop him. What do these fighters all have in common? They were all world-champs!

And yes, PAC was the harder puncher, even at 126lbs. The only way you can compare is by using a common opponent, which was MAB!

good post but at the same time manny is a better fighter. If naz tagged them like manny did i think naz does far more damage. It's hard to compare because we are talking about 1 thing a boxer does and naz didnt clime the weight div

[We want Floyd]

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But he has done those things with the other fighters I named and still claimed Naz as the hardest puncher he ever worked with p4p. Believe me, when I first read that there was no way I could believe Hamed was a harder puncher than Hearns. But why would Steward feel the need to say something like that if he didn't actually believe it?

The same could be said about PAC though.

There have been interviews of fighters in WildCard gym that have seen PAC drop cruiserweights as well? It's all hearsay, but.

And as far as Steward goes, hmm, maybe we should ask him who he thinks is the harder puncher P4P. He briefly trained NAZ and has been the boxing commentator for a number of PAC's fights, he would be the best source to get a solid answer.

[Spray_resistant]

And yes, PAC was the harder puncher, even at 126lbs. The only way you can compare is by using a common opponent, which was MAB!


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I would say that result was more a product of Pac being overall better than Nas not necessarily a harder puncher p4p....