If Usyk fights AJ we'll NEVER see Fury vs AJ

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  • War Room
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    If Usyk fights AJ we'll NEVER see Fury vs AJ

    Sorry not sorry, but Usyk beats AJ. Rematch clause, Usyk wins again, then nobody cares about AJ vs Fury. Watch and see --->
  • Zelda
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    Usyk will be on the ground between the 3rd and 5th rounds and get KO'ed brutally (if they don't quit or the ref stops the fight). AJ vs Usyk is no match. Usyk is too small and powerless at the HW division. He is agile and skilled, I will give him credit for that but HW is a different ballgame altogether. If you saw how he struggled against Chisora, you won't be saying this.

    The guys giving trouble to AJ in HW would be Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Dubois, and Ruiz. Nor smaller guys like Usyk or Hunter.

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    • TMLT87
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      #3
      Its a risky fight for sure. I think Usyk is better than anyone AJ has beaten so far other than Wlad.

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      • W1LL
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        I don't think it is a foregone conclusion, but I do think Usyk presents AJ with a lot of the problems Fury would have, on a smaller scale. The problem with Usyk, I don't think he will cope well with a Super Heavyweight who can hold him at range and counter him, similar to how AJ dealt with Parker and Ruiz Jr. in the rematch. If Usyk is forced to push the fight against a much bigger fighter, whilst standing in range, his reflexes seem to have suffered moving up in weight. Usyk is a quality fighter, I'm just no longer sure he is a level above AJ, at AJ's weight. Usyk got dropped by Glowacki, remember. The same Glowacki who got dustbinned by Lawrence Okolie. If AJ lands clean on Usyk's chin, he is going down. It is honestly a great fight, and up there with Fury-AJ, Fury-Wilder, AJ-Wilder, Usyk-Wilder, imo.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          Oh **** off. Usyk hasn't even got a punchers chance. Usyk is easy work for Joshua. He's going to be getting jabbed/straight right just to get inside and try and land punches that will do **** all. It's going to look like man against child.
          Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 05-19-2021, 03:28 AM.

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            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Oh **** off. Usyk hasn't even got a punchers chance. Usyk is easy work for Joshua. He's going to be getting jabbed/straight right just to get inside and try and land punches that will do **** all. It's going to look like man against child.
            Ruiz blistered AJ and in the rematch AJ was running scared and every punch that landed or got close to landing AJ was rattled. Usky will blister AJ.

            Originally posted by Zelda
            Usyk will be on the ground between the 3rd and 5th rounds and get KO'ed brutally (if they don't quit or the ref stops the fight). AJ vs Usyk is no match. Usyk is too small and powerless at the HW division. He is agile and skilled, I will give him credit for that but HW is a different ballgame altogether. If you saw how he struggled against Chisora, you won't be saying this.

            The guys giving trouble to AJ in HW would be Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Dubois, and Ruiz. Nor smaller guys like Usyk or Hunter.
            Saw the Chisora fight and I'm saying it.

            You two sound like dogwank fanboy's.

            AJ got a glass jaw, confirmed. He'll get outboxed and if Ruiz can lay him out, Usyk can too,

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            • QueensburyRules
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              - -Romper Room needing his Barney BigBoy trainers changed.

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                I don't have much faith in AJ but Usyk to me hasn't looked impressive inike 4 years, I think he's a high energy fighter who peaked at 28-31 and now at 34 pushing 35 or whatever he is he's a little bit past best. He's still got enough skill to get past a Chisora or a Tony Bellew but he would need a career best performance here which I don't know if he has in him these days.

                As I said in another thread AJ should be able to big man his way through the fight if needed, just make it ugly and horrible and clinch Usyk any time he gets past the jab.

                Factor in it'll be in the UK with a UK ref and judges and Joshua won't have to exactly put on a masterclass to sc**** a points win will he.

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                  Originally posted by Zelda
                  Usyk will be on the ground between the 3rd and 5th rounds and get KO'ed brutally (if they don't quit or the ref stops the fight). AJ vs Usyk is no match. Usyk is too small and powerless at the HW division. He is agile and skilled, I will give him credit for that but HW is a different ballgame altogether. If you saw how he struggled against Chisora, you won't be saying this.

                  The guys giving trouble to AJ in HW would be Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Dubois, and Ruiz. Nor smaller guys like Usyk or Hunter.
                  Would you say he struggled more, or less than Joseph Parker, former heavyweight champion and someone Joshua couldn’t knock out?

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                    Originally posted by W1LL
                    I don't think it is a foregone conclusion, but I do think Usyk presents AJ with a lot of the problems Fury would have, on a smaller scale. The problem with Usyk, I don't think he will cope well with a Super Heavyweight who can hold him at range and counter him, similar to how AJ dealt with Parker and Ruiz Jr. in the rematch. If Usyk is forced to push the fight against a much bigger fighter, whilst standing in range, his reflexes seem to have suffered moving up in weight. Usyk is a quality fighter, I'm just no longer sure he is a level above AJ, at AJ's weight. Usyk got dropped by Glowacki, remember. The same Glowacki who got dustbinned by Lawrence Okolie. If AJ lands clean on Usyk's chin, he is going down. It is honestly a great fight, and up there with Fury-AJ, Fury-Wilder, AJ-Wilder, Usyk-Wilder, imo.
                    Its funny you mention his reflexes because I noticed that Usyk really looks different than when he was a cruiser. I was wondering why... watching him use head movement, adjust in the ring, change tempo on his punches, all of which seem to have dissapeared when he fought Bellew, and totally when he fought Chisora. then it hit me: Usyk was able to be physical with his opponents as a cruiser, move them, go in and hit to the body, etc... he also looks like he lost a step as well... BUT a lot of what he set up was predicated on his strength. I doubt he beats AJ. AJ might look bad in spells during the fight, but Usyk now moves in straight lines, his head is held high... and the one thing Usyk lacks is what he needs, a legit punch with power.

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