Wilder doesn't want the fight

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  • Richard
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    #31
    Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
    The same way you all claimed the arbitration was all in our imagination?

    Seriously, you people are ****ing idiots. I have no idea how you can so insist on being consistently wrong and feel no sense of shame.
    I kinda agree. Wilder has that disabled daughter and wants to provide for her as well as repair his image. He's still dangerous but I can still see Fury winning the 3rd fight.

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    • Monzon99
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      #32
      Haymon will bribe Fury to play soft on his last hope fraud wilder. expect another fake draw, so the result will be fury loses no value/leverage and wilder regains what he lost in the second fight.

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      • FLY TY
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        #33
        Originally posted by Toffee

        Hearn could have told Fury to fight Wilder months ago? And then told him to fight AJ in August?

        Considering you call him a moron, you seem to have great confidence in his ability to influence fighters he has no promotional relationship with.
        If Fury decides to waste somebody else's time, that's on him.

        But the point, if you're too dense to understand, is that Eddie should've been wise enough to insist they handle their business, and he could've already gotten usyk out of the way...instead of trying to make a fight, for 6 months, that wasn't going to happen.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Fanofreason
          Eddie got played like a fool once again. Saudis won’t want to deal with him anymore
          Because the saudis are such fine upstanding individuals right?

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          • Toffee
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            #35
            Originally posted by FLY TY

            If Fury decides to waste somebody else's time, that's on him.

            But the point, if you're too dense to understand, is that Eddie should've been wise enough to insist they handle their business, and he could've already gotten usyk out of the way...instead of trying to make a fight, for 6 months, that wasn't going to happen.
            You claimed it was Hearn's fault that he didn't tell Fury to fight Wilder last year... and I'm the dense one?

            If you're Joshua and the Undisputed fight is there to be made, you try to make it. Don't forget that Joshua fought his IBF mandatory in December, and will probably fight his WBO mandatory in July/August. His career didn't go on hold unlike others.

            Maybe he could have fought Usyk a couple of months earlier... but there still wouldn't be a WBC fight for him.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Toffee

              You claimed it was Hearn's fault that he didn't tell Fury to fight Wilder last year... and I'm the dense one?

              If you're Joshua and the Undisputed fight is there to be made, you try to make it. Don't forget that Joshua fought his IBF mandatory in December, and will probably fight his WBO mandatory in July/August. His career didn't go on hold unlike others.

              Maybe he could have fought Usyk a couple of months earlier... but there still wouldn't be a WBC fight for him.
              I'm speaking from Joshua's perspective. If I'm him, I'm pissed. He's been sitting out for 6 months, watching Eddie make a fool of himself every week.

              The facts is Eddie knew Fury was in court, because he owed another man a fight. Instead, he tried to weasel in and make a fight that wasn't there to be made in the first place. I said it before, and I'll keep saying it. The smart move was for Eddie to tell them to handle their business with Wilder, while they get Usyk out of the way. Then, they'd still be in line to have the fight in August.

              Of course, in the eyes of some, Eddie can do no wrong.

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              • Toffee
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                #37
                Originally posted by FLY TY

                I'm speaking from Joshua's perspective. If I'm him, I'm pissed. He's been sitting out for 6 months, watching Eddie make a fool of himself every week.

                The facts is Eddie knew Fury was in court, because he owed another man a fight. Instead, he tried to weasel in and make a fight that wasn't there to be made in the first place. I said it before, and I'll keep saying it. The smart move was for Eddie to tell them to handle their business with Wilder, while they get Usyk out of the way. Then, they'd still be in line to have the fight in August.

                Of course, in the eyes of some, Eddie can do no wrong.
                But Fury never wanted to fight Wilder. There still would have been an arbitration ruling in May, and Fury would still be tied up right now. After the ruling, the earliest Fury will fight again would be November/December when Joshua will be free again too.

                Nothing Hearn could have done would change that. Joshua's career didn't go on hold. He fought a mandatory in December once they could get a few fans back in. He'll likely fight another mandatory in the middle of the year, when he couldn't possibly be fighting Fury because Fury lost the arbitration!

                No-one of this is about Hearn, and his fighter is still fighting the fights he would have if they hadn't gone into any negotiation with Fury.

                So what did this big mistake by Eddie cost? Joshua is exactly where he would be regardless.

                Meanwhile Fury and Wilder have sat out 15 months over a contract dispute.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                  This is your problem, me liking Wilder doesnt really negate the truth. You're ****** for thinking this was really going to end up any other way.

                  Despite liking Wilder, I live in the UK. I see how ****ing ****** most boxing fans here are and how they allow guys like Fury and Hearn to manipulate them so easily. I guess you're another one of the jackasses I'm talking about.
                  ****** is right. How many brits came over to see AJ get his butt kicked by Ruiz in the Garden. And to top it off most of them bet big on AJ and had to sell their ***elry they brought with them just to get back home.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Let's be honest, Wilder wants no part of Fury right now.
                    He's working on new stuff, just getting a new training situation sorted + the mental destruction he's been through.

                    Grease his pockets and let's move on.
                    Some of these declarations are FAF

                    ''BJS Gonna Beat The Breaks Off Of Nelo''
                    was another doozy

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown

                      Fury should call his bluff and say he’ll fight him.

                      id imagine then Wilder’s team will turn it around and start suggesting a step aside fee.

                      Wilder doesn’t want the fight, let’s be real. It was all about getting in a legal position to negotiate a step
                      aside.
                      Glorious

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