Is AJ closer to Frank Bruno or Lennox Lewis?
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He's the best version of both. The boxing of Lewis and the aggression of Bruno. AJ will absolutely destroy Fury and finally get the credit he deserves, which is ironic, he has about 5 wins on his record of better fighters than the big mouth. Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz etc, all the guy does is fight champions and mandatories. Meanwhile....Fury, never defended a belt, has Wlad and the hype job from Alabama on his record, and that's the whole story. Other than to say he got dropped by Pajkic and Cunnigham (and Wilder), and beaten up by John McDermott and Otto Wallin. Most boxing observers can't tell when they're being sold something. The commentary is a clue folks, when you listen to Max Kellerman and those guys hyping a fighter like Wilder, turn the commentary off and watch it in silence. THAT is what a lot of avid fans of boxing do. If you can't see the politics and hype in boxing maybe you think the US election was stolen and covid is not real. God save us from people with their eyes closed.Comment
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You casuals never learn.
He's the best version of both. The boxing of Lewis and the aggression of Bruno. AJ will absolutely destroy Fury and finally get the credit he deserves, which is ironic, he has about 5 wins on his record of better fighters than the big mouth. Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz etc, all the guy does is fight champions and mandatories. Meanwhile....Fury, never defended a belt, has Wlad and the hype job from Alabama on his record, and that's the whole story. Other than to say he got dropped by Pajkic and Cunnigham (and Wilder), and beaten up by John McDermott and Otto Wallin. Most boxing observers can't tell when they're being sold something. The commentary is a clue folks, when you listen to Max Kellerman and those guys hyping a fighter like Wilder, turn the commentary off and watch it in silence. THAT is what a lot of avid fans of boxing do. If you can't see the politics and hype in boxing maybe you think the US election was stolen and covid is not real. God save us from people with their eyes closed.
Well, you will, when Fury destroys this hype job.Comment
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Obviously Joshua is closer to Lewis. It's not even really a question.Bruno vs world champions:
L KO 10 vs James "Bonecrusher" Smith
L TKO 11 vs Tim Witherspoon
L TKO 5 vs Mike Tyson
L TKO 7 vs Lennox Lewis
W UD 12 vs Oliver McCall
L TKO 3 vs Mike Tyson
Record: 1-5-0-0
Lewis vs world champions:
W UD 8 vs Ossie Ocasio (cruiserweight champion)
W KO 6 vs Mike Weaver
W UD 12 vs Tony Tucker
W TKO 7 vs Frank Bruno
L TKO 2 vs Oliver McCall
W TKO 6 vs Tommy Morrison (WBO champ before it was fully recognized)
W MD 10 vs Ray Mercer (WBO champ before it was fully recognized)
W TKO 5 vs Oliver McCall
W DQ 5 vs Henry Akinwande (WBO champ before it was fully recognized)
W TKO 5 vs Shannon Briggs
D SD 12 vs Evander Holyfield
W UD 12 vs Evander Holyfield
L KO 5 vs Hasim Rahman
W KO 4 vs Hasim Rahman
W KO 8 vs Mike Tyson
W TKO 6 vs Vitali Klitschko
Record: 13-2-1-0, 10-2-1-0 if you don't count the old school WBO champions (Liakhovich was champ when it became fully recognized), 9-2-1-0 if you don't count the cruiserweight champ
Joshua vs world champions:
W KO 2 vs Charles Martin
W TKO 11 vs Wladimir Klitschko
W UD 12 vs Joseph Parker
L TKO 7 vs Andy Ruiz
W UD 12 vs Andy Ruiz
Record: 4-1-0-0
I didn't include interim champions or "regular" champions for any of them, nor a guy like Frans Botha who was immediately stripped of his IBF heavyweight title for failing a drug test. Just full champions of the big 4, lineal champions, or Ring champions.
Looking at this list, Joshua's quality of opposition is paper thin compared to Bruno or Lewis. But ultimately Bruno was a one-win wonder, while Josuha backed it up. So he's closer to Bruno but still better. Neither guy is anywhere close to Lennox Lewis.
But Bruno's championship losses don't really tell the full story either. He was ahead against Smith, Witherspoon, Lewis (though for not as long) and obviously McCall who he beat. Only Tyson was obviously a level above in their fights.
He was very comfortably in the right company with the Champions of that era.Comment
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Neither. he’s a bit like Bruno when he gets caught though, he freezes up and doesn’t know what to do.
Fury actually had elements of Lewis in the Wilder rematch, especially in stance.
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90s heavyweights were not any good, so who cares.
100 old Foreman was able to win a belt in glorified 90s, lol.Comment
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That’s a lie lol. The heavyweight division in the 90s was stacked compared to 2000s and 2010s...also arguably the 1980s which was dominated by Holmes and Tyson though
Also Foreman deserves credit for KOing Moore who was a pretty good boxerLast edited by TheSlickster; 05-17-2021, 08:20 AM.Comment
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