Comments Thread For: Fury Promoter on Joshua News: How Many Times Has Hearn Announced This?

[DaNeutral.]

Ohhhh this is about Fish Eyes salty old Brick top Frank Warren. When it said it was Fury's promoter I thought they meant Arum not Bob's little UK based, as far as Fury is concerned Frank just says "yes Bob sir no Bob sir" or "Hearn is not a good promoter I am better, isn't that right Bob sir"

[Jax teller]

Ignore what Fury says, we all know everything is agree and signed as long as they see the money.

Hearn doesn’t have to answer those questions, he can keep his head and wait until everything is finalise or real. We all know the only thing they all waiting on is the money.

So wait and let everyone see the money then announce the fight. No point in dropping one news every 2 weeks like Osama dropping videos every other week.

I disagree, you've been able to follow it from splits agreed to site offers being obtained to site being finalised and now final contract being worked out between AJ, Fury and Saudi lawyers. With Frank and Arum confirming bits along the way and Arum sometimes doing u-turns on what he already said.

Keeps the fans hopeful that progress is being made and keeps them engaged.

If you've followed boxing long enough you know to take the 'hope to announce in xx weeks' with a pinch of salt.

[lion33lit]

Hearns promoter instincts will have him promoting all the time, it’s just what he does and is supposed to do - even if it’s extremely annoying to the more discerning of fans....

Hearn has to keep the Fury following in a constant state of anticipation to potentially see their hero do his thing live & direct, his fans are tired of just being able to dream about him, bowing before his posters in their bedrooms.

Hearn also wants to play the reverse psychology game. He wants Team-Wilder to believe that negotiations are sooo faaar into play that it would be a total waste of time to pursue his binding legal arbitration case.

Hearn and Fury fans alike want Wilder to “give up,” to feel like the odd man out....to feel like some Joe Shmo who got beat fair & square.....to feel embarrassed by voicing disapproval...... Wilder will never be that guy.....and Hearn is gonna continue being that annoying promoter.

[lion33lit]

Fury knows there’s an ongoing legal case he’s agreed upon......this is on Fury’s mind because he’s truly not ******!......Recently, when Fury is asked about the Joshua fight on YouTube!?? “I’ll probably have to fight Wilder” is what he responds with - this happens more than his fans realize.... Whatever money he signs to receive for his potential Joshua showdown won’t be allotted just for his team.....Wilder & litigation representation has to get paid well.

Again,.. Fury & Wilder have a legal agreement, this legally binding responsibility hasn’t disappeared just because Fury & his adoring fans want it to. Significant cash payout will no doubt come from Fury’s pockets - whether it be from an upcoming desperation retirement check from the potential Joshua fight, or from cash he’s already saved for his beers burgers and artichokes..... Legal ramifications are set in place....he MUST be separated from BIG money....Fury’s thinking about that....whether his fans believe it or not.

[billeau2]

I have news for you my friend. Frank Warren today has said: "Unless Fury gets certain assurances from Hearn then he is not signing the contract". So my question is what assurances does he need? So far, Eddie Hearn has provided both the venue and the date and now all that is missing is Tyson Fury's signature. This is a tell-tale sign that they want out of the fight; Which is why they keep stalling but don't know how because Eddie has delivered the goods. So they are searching for every inconceivable excuse in order to postpone this fight.

None of us are privey to the escrow. Real funds have to be deposited. Thats just a reality. I don't know if that is the problem, but it sounds like that is what it is. Without knowing the specifics it is impossible to speculate. Most times the problem, or as you put it, the assurances Fury needs, are the knowledge that bank funds have been deposited to the escrow, the people that hold the funds and pay everyone according to instructions. I won't even speculate about the arbitration decision.

[GucciGod]

It's true, all the other promoters are not-for-profit saints... That Eddie Hearn is such a salesman, its almost as if he's in the prizefighting game to make money or something. Bob Arum never lies, Frank Warren only has his fighters interests at heart, Golden Boy aren't in it for themselves at all, Al Haymon is a philanthropist if anything.

LOL

Never ceases to amaze me how people become blinded by their hate. Boxing isn't a sport, it's a business, the clue is in the name - PRIZEFIGHTING. Promoters are in it for one thing, same as the fighters - money.

Go watch amateur boxing if you want a sport - it's still corrupt and badly scored though, oh and also much more boring.

Do these same guys act like attention seeking wh*ores constantly? Do they insist on been part of every single post fight interview? Do they physically push trainers, opposing promoters out the way so the camera is on them? Do any of them open a business for their wives, then at the launch night invite a load of boxing press to interview him?

I didn’t think so. You can’t tell me ish. You’ve never ever signed to a promoter where as I have so please don’t try telling me how these promoters work.

[GucciGod]

It's true, all the other promoters are not-for-profit saints... That Eddie Hearn is such a salesman, its almost as if he's in the prizefighting game to make money or something. Bob Arum never lies, Frank Warren only has his fighters interests at heart, Golden Boy aren't in it for themselves at all, Al Haymon is a philanthropist if anything.

LOL

Never ceases to amaze me how people become blinded by their hate. Boxing isn't a sport, it's a business, the clue is in the name - PRIZEFIGHTING. Promoters are in it for one thing, same as the fighters - money.

Go watch amateur boxing if you want a sport - it's still corrupt and badly scored though, oh and also much more boring.

Or how about how eddie wanted his own gloves are off filmed against David higgins? During lockdown Eddie hated not getting attention, so what’s he go and do? IG Live every night instead of spending any time with his family! And what for? To PROMOTE HIMSELF.

I can already tell that you are one of those blind sheep that lets people tell them what they’ve just seen. I bet even now you will think in ya head that
” of course Eddie has to promote himself, if he can he can promote his fighters better”

these opinions are what’s killing this sport.
If you can answer to all these scenarios I’ve given, and shut me up with decent replies then I’ll eat my hat and give you a Gigantic Apology.

[Earl-Hickey]

It's gonna be ****ing fury v Wilder 3 isn't it

I can see it coming

**** this sport man

[champion4ever]

None of us are privey to the escrow. Real funds have to be deposited. Thats just a reality. I don't know if that is the problem, but it sounds like that is what it is. Without knowing the specifics it is impossible to speculate. Most times the problem, or as you put it, the assurances Fury needs, are the knowledge that bank funds have been deposited to the escrow, the people that hold the funds and pay everyone according to instructions. I won't even speculate about the arbitration decision.

You may be right. It's possible. Right now, it's all speculation at this point or it could be another face-saving move by Team Fury to say that they are no longer interested in the fight. However, I must admit that I have never seen an issue like this raised in a fight before. It just seems like more of an excuse to me in order to back out of the fight.

[billeau2]

You may be right. It's possible. Right now, it's all speculation at this point or it could be another face-saving move by Team Fury to say that they are no longer interested in the fight. However, I must admit that I have never seen an issue like this raised in a fight before. It just seems like more of an excuse to me in order to back out of the fight.

Good points, lets try to deconstruct some possibilities.

1) I think the amount of money this fight stands to bring makes it a fight that is probably desired by both camps. There is a possibility fury may want a tuner before... Perhaps he wants to make it so the fight is done later. He may be doing this for a coupleof reasons, I doubt one of them is fear that he is not able to beat Joshua. One reason could be how the covid affects the landscape... BUT there is the second fight coming in series, so I don't think this is the reason. There might be concerns about the arbitration. BUT from what I hear I actually think Fury is wary of Wilder and would prefer not to fight him again before Joshua. Of course arbitration could make it so Fury has no choice...

To me that means that either Fury wants the assurances as stated, or wants a tune up because of inactivity before he meets Joshua. He does look a bit jiggly in sparing lol.

2) On the bolded: You probably have never seen these issues because the amount of money involved is crazy. When so much money is involved, the safeguards become more of an issue. Now... Its interesting that Joshua does not appear to have the same concerns but put yourself in Joshua's shoes: If Fury is raising a stink about certain procedures, you know they will be addressed, why not look like they are not an issue? Play games with Fury... tell people, "this guy does not want that smoke, he is stalling!" Joshua might simply also trust Hearn, having done the Ruiz fights this way... I think with Joshua, who is an intelligent, easy going sort, he is in the proverbial position of one who has lemons, so why not make lemonade?

I will admit that it is interesting that joshua appears not to have the concerns that Fury does about the money... We cannot discount the idea that joshua is simply being misled by hearns... This happens a lot in boxing. It is why some of us hate Arum and King. Fighters like Tim Witherspoon, were virtually destroyed by contract crap courtesy of Don the criminal King.

Fighters do duck other fighters. Even the greatest fighters do so: Ray Robinson never would fight Charley Burley and was upfront about it. Thats just an example, we know of many such situations. But I do think the "duck" has layers... maybe a fight is worth it for a price, maybe a fighter just does not want to fight a certain opponent. Im inclined not to think Fury is ducking Joshua with the caveat that he may well want a tune up because the lack of activity scares him. Fury plays games, BUT he is suprisingly candid lol. Its not easy to tell the difference but if you watch him interview he often looks different when he is being honest than when he is sprouting off.