The reason Canelo is the biggest star

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #21
    I agree with much of the sentiment on this thread - Canelo has challenged himself and has taken some high risk low reward fights, but there's the missing ingredient that hasn't been mentioned - he's Mexican and a decent looking guy. What may have passed some folk by is that the WBC and Vegas are constantly on the lookout for their next superstar - their next ODLH - and any upcoming prospect who looks promising is granted extra opportunities, maneuvered into title shots and so on. Prior to Canelo they had hopes for Chavez Jr, but he turned out to be a dud... Vicious Vic ditto, Zurdo... same same... in Canelo they found the right combination of heritage, skills, looks and desire and they made sure he had the opportunities to shine on the big stage.

    That is not to detract from Canelo in any way - he needed the ability and the self confidence to take the opportunities he was given and also the desire and willingness to grow from the wealth of top level experience. He was being groomed to be a star almost out of his teens and he is to be credited because he could have taken a much easier path and still have been made the face of boxing but the fact remains that vansihingly few fighters get the level of opportunity to shine from a young age that Canelo did.

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    • -Kev-
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      #22
      Originally posted by creekrat77

      Dude you've got to be kidding. It wasn't that long ago Canelo was the 155lb champ fighting Amir Khan lmao
      It wasn’t that long ago GGG, the WBC and IBF Middleweight champ fought Kell Brook, ranked at 147, at 160. “Lmao”.

      Canelo has not only fought Khan you know? He has also fought Mayweather, GGG 2x, Jacobs, Lara, Trout, Cotto, Kovalev, Saunders, Callum Smith, Kirkland, Angulo. Pretty damn good resume.

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      • TernceBudCharlo
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        #23
        Originally posted by -Kev-

        What about Terence Crawford? Has he taken any risks?
        What does Crawford have to do with this?

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        • PeepeePoopooMan
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          #24
          Canelo unifying 168 is as impressive as Crawford unifying 140. Accept Crawford didn't have any diva demands like a short camp and rehydration clauses. Postol alone is better than smith and saunders

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          • Skillz12
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            #25
            Right no one has come close to doing what canelo is doing.

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            • Skillz12
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              #26
              Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan
              Canelo unifying 168 is as impressive as Crawford unifying 140. Accept Crawford didn't have any diva demands like a short camp and rehydration clauses. Postol alone is better than smith and saunders
              Hahahahha

              postol is a c level fighter dude sucks ass but not surprised to hear such dumb ass comments from Crawford idiotic fans. Smith was a legit champ with a super six tournament winner. Post has done nada.

              you guys are a sad bunch only lying to yourselves because you’re not fooling anyone.

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              • Boxing-1013
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                #27
                Canelo is fighting very well now. But obviously some fights become much easier to take, make, and win, when you have Canelo's star status. You can control the terms of the fight, and you know if you go 12 rounds you are likely winning. Let's not oversell the 'he is taking risks' thing. When you're the super A side like he is, you don't really have to take risks.

                I don't see him fighting Artur or Bivol, for example. Those would be real risks. But he doesn't need to do that.

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                • Mr Giggles
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                  #28
                  Because he gets gifted decisions?

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                  • sicko
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                    #29
                    We have to give Oscar a TON of credit he introduced him to this American Market! Without Oscar he probably would've ended up like Zurdo did with Top Rank

                    Yeah Oscar say what you want about him but GBP did do a good job promoting and pushing Canelo to build him up to this point. OSCAR DE LA HOYA started the May and September Dates and made them big dates here in America.

                    As for Other fighters, well they just don't have the Loyalty from their Own People and Culture like Canelo has from his Mexican Fans and I think it is a TON of Jealousy not from the Fighters Themselves but more so the FANS of those other fighters. A lot of the current Top Fighters are huge fans of Canelo, he is highly respected among his PEERS/Fellow Boxers and to me that is far more important than what some BITTER Fans on Social Media, Forums and Youtube are saying. Speaking more English now will only make him BIGGER!

                    The sport is Big Enough and even BETTER when it has Multiple Superstars like the other far more popular sports in America has MULTIPLE Superstars not just one! So the rest of boxing needs to do a better job of self marketable and just connecting with their People and Fanbases to get them to rally behind you. Do this, pick a Set Place where you fight and set dates when you will fight Annually, this way people who don't even watch boxing much will always know when to expect you. Also too CONNECT WITH YOUR PEOPLE, stop trying to leech off the great Mexican fans fighting Mexican Fighters to try and get them to support you too because it is never going to happen because YOU AINT MEXICAN! I want to see Boxing Overall WIN not just fighters I like, so boxers and their promoters who are getting 15-20% for doing absolutely nothing need to step it up and earn their damn money! Don King, say what you want but Don King use to go on Jay Leno, David Letterman, Arsenio Hall Late Night Talk Shows and every Radio Shows from Hip Hop Stations to damn Country Stations to Talk Shows like Howard Stern and he would promo the HELL out of Mike Tyson, Chavez Sr, Trinidad...No Current Trainer is doing that at all. Eddie is accessible at least and is willing to talk to whoever is willing to listen so credit to him he is the best PROMOTER in boxing Right Now for sure. For the guys who don't have a Promoter, Hire One! Hire you a charismatic Guy to come and help with Promotions and name him like President of your own Promotion or something. Say what you want about Leonard Ellerbe but he is a well spoken sharp dressed guy who goes out and would Help Mayweather with Promotions too. He also does a good job of pushing Tank and getting people to believe that Tank is already this huge STAR. While Tank is not their yet, the fact that Mayweather and Ellerbe pushes him, have Casuals and Celebrities INTERESTED!
                    Last edited by sicko; 05-11-2021, 06:16 PM.

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                    • PeepeePoopooMan
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Skillz12

                      Hahahahha

                      postol is a c level fighter dude sucks ass but not surprised to hear such dumb ass comments from Crawford idiotic fans. Smith was a legit champ with a super six tournament winner. Post has done nada.

                      you guys are a sad bunch only lying to yourselves because you’re not fooling anyone.
                      Postol has solid wins over mathysee and got robbed against Ramirez. Thats already better than what smith and saunders have. You cant even refute anything i say so all you can do is call me a hater lmfao loser

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