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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Originally posted by PredatorStyle
    I'm surprised anyone thought he should continue, I was watching it live and could see the damage was serious; didn't Canelo celebrating during the round give that away?

    If that punch from Canelo did that to BJ's cheek, imagine what damage another of those would have done to that same area? He would be very lucky to make it out alive.

    Why are British fighters bones cracking like straws? Is there something wrong in the diet, making their bones thinner or something?
    We can understand why the fight was stopped.

    But? This fight was a pivotal moment in Saunders career. He must of known how unforgiving boxing fans and the media can be.

    If he would of came out for another few rounds, and visibly dealt with the injury 'Then having his corner throwing the towel in? The entire narrative on the fight would be different'

    Mark Tibb's could of just let him go out, maybe just threw the towel in a few minutes into the round.

    But because it was stopped in his corner, people have all blamed Saunders the stoppage.

    Deontay Wilder was stopped on his feet, still trying to survive vs Fury 'After being beaten from start to finish'.

    Wilder still left that fight in my opinion? With no real damage to his warrior credentials.

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Agreed with Fitzsimmons. But it’s going to go in one ear and come out the other. They will just try to convince everyone how right they are while laying on their beds and couches. Trying to argue about toughness in a sport they don’t dare to compete in themselves. Living vicariously through other fighters who became injured in a fight and kept going. As if that was them fighting in there. I don’t think those fans respect the sport though. They just watch it like a teen watching tiktok videos.

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      • Liondw
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        #13
        Agreed, it was the right call. The fans at home don't help the fighter if he's sitting at home blind in one eye, so rather be wiser and save the eye.

        Maybe Saunders does or doesn't fight again, but he gave a good effort, more than Callum Smith, even though the latter went the distance.

        He spoke some smack, said and did a few bad things in the past, but hopefully learned from that. Give these guys a break, they're in the toughest of sports.

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        • tokon
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          #14
          Originally posted by 786
          I think everyone calling him a quitter is not saying he should've continued but rather pointing out the irony and hypocrisy of the situation following BJS's comments about Dubois. I saw Shannon Briggs saying something along the lines of, 'not saying fighters should continue with that sort of injury but they were your words Billy, not mine.'

          That's what it's about, no one is being 'macho' and acting like they would've continued. In fact, the backlash should all be on BJS being a 'macho man' that didn't live up to his words when he was faced with the same adversity, not the ones pointing out the hypocrisy.

          I've seen so many 'damage control' articles and interviews defending BJS's actions and ****ting on the people who are highlighting what he said following the Dubois-Joyce fight....

          So, my thing is, **** feeling sorry for Billy, he made those comments and he's going to have to live with it.
          Excellent perspective.

          Thanks.

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          • OnlytheTruth
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            #15
            Originally posted by PredatorStyle
            If that punch from Canelo did that to BJ's cheek, imagine what damage another of those would have done to that same area? He would be very lucky to make it out alive.
            I hadn't actually thought about it that way. Really good point. Puts it all into perspective.

            I think this whole 'quitter' thing is being pushed because of what he said about Dubois and BJS got his karma. In reality, who would want to carry on fighting the P4P consensus #1 with one eye? Only a fool.

            The guy has to live his life after the gloves are hung up and I doubt he wants to be partially blind.

            BTW - the part about British straw bones was BS.

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            • Skillz12
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              #16
              Originally posted by thack
              Saunders was hanging in there before the injury and although Canelo was looking dangerous with his big misses there was just a thought that Saunders was finding a good rhythm and frustrating Canelo like only Floyd had.....but as great fighters do he found the shot that mattered and broke Saunders face .Canelo himself knew being an expert as to how punchers feel when they land knew that he had done serious damage and said himself 'with that kind of injury it is impossible to continue'. The warped idea of a few that it should simply don't get sport and no doubt many other things . This nonsense from a few idiots should not hide the fact that BJS put in a great skilful hard fought shift of which he and the fans should be proud unlike one so called contender (Eubank Jr) who took pride in placing a £10k bet against him , had it not been for the injury I would have thought Saunders would have done the distance but then Canelo as proved many times has the leveller. Jr will never have the bottle to try , he ran from Golovkin and forfeited £3m and left it to Brook a welter to sort it so enough of him . BJS is a great fighter but he fought the undisputed best in the world and fighters like Canelo don't come around that often , he really is a cut above.
              Well said.

              bjs is a very good fighter very skilled yes he lost to the best but no shame in that whatsoever.

              Only lose was to an all time great if he can rebound from this I would bet he beats guys like Andrade, Plant and maybe even Charlo.

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              • Jack_sh*t
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                #17
                If BJS was a quitter, he could have just laid down after that shot. It's ridiculous to suggest he should have continued with such an injury. He needs to come out and publicly apologise for his remarks about Dubious now he's walked in his shoes though.

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                • SweetPbfAli
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                  #18
                  I don't think any sane or rational person has an issue with his decision. The issue comes from him giving other fighters that made the same decision **** for it prior. Also, he seems to be just a POS in general that warrants little to no sympathy.

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                  • SteveM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                    We can understand why the fight was stopped.

                    But? This fight was a pivotal moment in Saunders career. He must of known how unforgiving boxing fans and the media can be.

                    If he would of came out for another few rounds, and visibly dealt with the injury 'Then having his corner throwing the towel in? The entire narrative on the fight would be different'

                    Mark Tibb's could of just let him go out, maybe just threw the towel in a few minutes into the round.

                    But because it was stopped in his corner, people have all blamed Saunders the stoppage.

                    Deontay Wilder was stopped on his feet, still trying to survive vs Fury 'After being beaten from start to finish'.

                    Wilder still left that fight in my opinion? With no real damage to his warrior credentials.
                    You seem to be unable to tell the difference between an eye bruised and swollen shut, and an eye socket fracture.
                    What do you think the bones around the eye are protecting?
                    If those bones around the eye are broken they can no longer protect the soft tissue behind them.
                    A similar heavy punch from Canelo to the spot would likely have seen permanent damage done to BJS' eye. The likelihood of such a punch landing increased significantly because Saunders had vision in one eye.

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SteveM

                      You seem to be unable to tell the difference between an eye bruised and swollen shut, and an eye socket fracture.
                      What do you think the bones around the eye are protecting?
                      If those bones around the eye are broken they can no longer protect the soft tissue behind them.
                      A similar heavy punch from Canelo to the spot would likely have seen permanent damage done to BJS' eye. The likelihood of such a punch landing increased significantly because Saunders had vision in one eye.
                      He could of came out for the next round, and just survived for awhile 'Then the towel get throw in'.

                      It is a risk, but the narrative of the entire fight would be different.

                      That is all I am saying etc

                      Say something different mate? Everyone knows his eye socket was damaged.

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