Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I'm Indestructible, Unbeatable, It's A Shame Joshua Has To Fight In My Era

[Jack_sh*t]

Some of that is true. But AJ doesn't gas any more and certainly not any more than Fury. Fury always used to gas out until he went into the Klitchko fight full of wild boar. Stamina: They are even.
Obviously Fury is way faster on his feet and with his hands than AJ so he gets outboxed on the outside all night long. Fury is (relatively) pillow fisted though (just because he bullied and smashed over a glass canon bambi legs doesn't mean he suddenly has huge power). So AJ needs to cut off the ring, get on the inside which won't be too hard as he doesn't have to worry too much about anything scary coming back at him, unlike say if he was fighting Wilder. Fury has no inside game aside from leaning on you and Joshua is deadly on the inside.
That is how AJ wins, one of those massive uppercuts or a short hook on the inside. The only way Fury wins is how he beat Wlad, dancing and running around all night. The difference is where he befuddled Wlad with that, AJ will be expecting it and have a plan to deal with it and get on the inside and do damage.

I don't buy the 'pillow fists' thing. Historically, Fury never sat down on his punches as he relied on superior movement. When Sugarhill got him to, he dropped 'Bambi-legs' with a body shot. When was the last time you saw a HW dropped with a body shot? Fury is 6'9" and 250+ with a 72" reach. Punch technique can be learned.

[Jack_sh*t]

I'll bite. You're touching on response to adversity for each. Noted. Before we get to that lets put it on paper. Matchmaking. Look at their styles. Fury is a boxer and AJ is a boxer puncher. How they've performed recently. AJ has faster hands so he's going to do well in exchanges. Fury would do better at range so he stay off the ropes. Same way Ruiz fought him in the first match is how I suspect him to do against fury. Not identically, AJ gotta set up the uppercut. How? By landing up top to get fury to duck. Bam. essentially

I think that's the best response I've had. Historically, I would agree on your assessment re boxer/boxer-puncher, but Steward seems to have changed that. Also, I think mentally Fury processes faster than AJ, part of what is referred to in the term 'Ring IQ.' He reacts and responds to situations quicker. Have you considered their respective head-movement skills? Fury is streets ahead there. I see Fury landing clean on AJ first and AJ struggling to recover and adjust.

Anyway, it's an interesting match-up and I can't wait til they get it on.

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Gotta laugh at the casuals in this thread who are trying to link BJS's loss to Fury

Fury is going to box Joshua's head off and I'm going to enjoy laughing at all the idiots on here who said the same daft s*** before Fury fought Wlad & Wilder x2

[Roberto Vasquez]

None taken. Regarding that knockdown, it isn't the Wilder right hand that made Fury's rise so incredible in my eyes... It's the left hook Wilder connected with as Fury was falling, head completely unsupported. I would have thought the whiplash generated by that punch would have slept anyone. To get up from that and finish the round so strongly... Unbelievable recovery. AJ just hasn't got that I think, and it's not something you can train or develop, you either have it or you don't.

You are right Aj has an average chin and a below-average recovery. But he keeps fighting top-10 opponents every fight. Fury has fought 1 in 5 or 6 years. Fury rolls the dice everytime he fights for a belt.

Also I don't think you can judge Fury's recovery on 3 knockdowns. Especially since he rarely gets hit hard the rest of the fight. He looks ok but Cunningham putting him down is a red flag - esp since he was a Crusierweight.

Joshua has a very hard jab. And a slightly-above average right hand in terms of power. It's going to be interesting.

Gotta laugh at the casuals in this thread who are trying to link BJS's loss to Fury

Fury is going to box Joshua's head off and I'm going to enjoy laughing at all the idiots on here who said the same daft s*** before Fury fought Wlad & Wilder x2

He couldn't box Wallin's head off. Fury beat an old Wlad and an unproven Wilder. And lost to David Price and John MCDermott. Why does AJ have more belts and title defenses than him?

[Jack_sh*t]

He couldn't box Wallin's head off. Fury beat an old Wlad and an unproven Wilder. And lost to David Price and John MCDermott. Why does AJ have more belts and title defenses than him?

Because Fury dropped the belts and AJ got to fight Charles Martin for them. Top 10. Walks this earth like a God.

AJ also beat Wlad, 2 years later.

Fury won on points in the first match with McDermott, but it was by no means a decisive victory. He then KO'd him in a rematch less than a year later.

I'd like to see your scorecard for Fury v Price, given that Fury has never fought David Price.

*Defences.

[TMLT87]

It really comes across like Fury is going to have a massive fall from grace tbh. It'd be hard not to with all the **** he talks and the insane hype hes getting. If Joshua actually beats him hes going to have a Wilder-esque meltdown, all the fanboys will lose their **** and he will probably "retire" again.

[Monty Fisto]

I don't buy the 'pillow fists' thing. Historically, Fury never sat down on his punches as he relied on superior movement. When Sugarhill got him to, he dropped 'Bambi-legs' with a body shot. When was the last time you saw a HW dropped with a body shot? Fury is 6'9" and 250+ with a 72" reach. Punch technique can be learned.

I've written about this before on these boards and I'll touch on it again -- I don't think you will see Fury going in Kronk style against Joshua. The reason I think this, is that the way Fury fought in the second Wilder fight was an extension of what happened in the final round of their first fight when something clicked with Fury about the counter-intuitive way of smothering Wilder's power. That was borne from desperation -- a mammoth knockdown, a miraculous recovery and then a desperate attempt to recover the round when it seemed he had little to lose... And a serenidipitous discovery that pushing Wilder back and closing the distance between them pushed everything in his favour. Roll on the second fight and he had the confidence of that knowledge to help him go for it.

He will have no such knowlege or confidence against Joshua. For all he knows, that might be a disastrous strategy to take against a devastating counter-puncher like Joshua. Could end up walking on to an uppercut in the first round if he goes all Kronk.

If the fight happens, I'm confident Fury will keep things cagey for at least the first half of the fight.

[Hype job]

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[KP1]

Big words from a guy ****ting himself from a pen.

[KidDinamita]

Can't wait for this one, as Fury fights like the person in front of him usually. If he fights a C level fighter he fights like one.