Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I'm Indestructible, Unbeatable, It's A Shame Joshua Has To Fight In My Era

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  • REDEEMER
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    #31
    Originally posted by billeau2
    This has to be one of the dumbest threads, with some of the most ridiculous things postulated by some of the more IQ challenged joshua fan base. There are intelligent reasons some may consider joshua able to win, none of which are in this thread. I think fury will win. But that does not excuse posting absolute Bllocks as to the reason why. lets look at some of the special olympic brilliant minds division shall we?

    1) Joshua has fought top ten while fury has fought shiate. The general level of competition in the division is crap. There are some talented first rate fighters among the crap. Ruiz is one of them, and Joshua is one and one with him. Wilder is another and Klitchko of course. Its not that big of a distinction that one guy may have fought fighters out of the group who are slightly better. Fury beat the best out there with ease. He had one mistake and showed it did not get him a loss.
    2) Any win fury gets is due to luck... the klit fight was simply... oh a fluke of one sort or another... and Fury's chin is crap, any heavyweight can get up from a wilder shot point blank, doesn't mean nuthin... REALLY?
    3) Joshua is some level of fighter Fury has not encountered... Well, explain this one. Is Joshua talented? yes. what does he do so well that gives him an advantage over fury?
    Yet this poster refuses to bet me that A.J stops him ?

    Oh he don’t bet doe ? Not even if I can only win by a Joshua stoppage. Don’t worry Silly you aren’t the only one and you aren’t the worse poster on here referring to Fury ,there’s a certain type of mentally classed Fury die hards that won’t even bet . But they aren’t cowards like you they don’t go around hiding behind other posters about others bets and get involved in it . Ha
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-13-2021, 02:45 AM.

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    • REDEEMER
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      #32
      No one who suffered one of the worst busted eye as bad as it gets I’ve seen to be able to continue against a prospect Otto Wallin can make this claim . A.J would do the same to him that night and would have pounded him to have that fight called off .

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      • hugh grant
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        #33
        No eye socket is indestructable. Bjs was beginning to outbox nel o when accident happened so you never know

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        • Jack_sh*t
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          #34
          Originally posted by Monty Fisto

          I've written about this before on these boards and I'll touch on it again -- I don't think you will see Fury going in Kronk style against Joshua. The reason I think this, is that the way Fury fought in the second Wilder fight was an extension of what happened in the final round of their first fight when something clicked with Fury about the counter-intuitive way of smothering Wilder's power. That was borne from desperation -- a mammoth knockdown, a miraculous recovery and then a desperate attempt to recover the round when it seemed he had little to lose... And a serenidipitous discovery that pushing Wilder back and closing the distance between them pushed everything in his favour. Roll on the second fight and he had the confidence of that knowledge to help him go for it.

          He will have no such knowlege or confidence against Joshua. For all he knows, that might be a disastrous strategy to take against a devastating counter-puncher like Joshua. Could end up walking on to an uppercut in the first round if he goes all Kronk.

          If the fight happens, I'm confident Fury will keep things cagey for at least the first half of the fight.
          I agree completely with your observations re Fury working Wilder out in the 12th of their first encounter and hence switching trainers. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Fury kept it long for the first few rounds at least v AJ. Wilder generally only lands his money punch from mid-range and is weaker on the inside than long-range. Fury was either all the way in or all the way out in the 2nd fight. He didn't hang around in the danger zone, though he smothered a lot of his own work in the process. Joshua's inside game is streets ahead of Wilder's.

          However, I don't really see AJ as a 'devastating counter-puncher,' at least, not against quality opposition. I expect Fury to make him miss and tire him out, stopping him around the 9th or 10th.

          Other scenario's are available...

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          • Monty Fisto
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            #35
            Originally posted by Jack_sh*t

            I agree completely with your observations re Fury working Wilder out in the 12th of their first encounter and hence switching trainers. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Fury kept it long for the first few rounds at least v AJ. Wilder generally only lands his money punch from mid-range and is weaker on the inside than long-range. Fury was either all the way in or all the way out in the 2nd fight. He didn't hang around in the danger zone, though he smothered a lot of his own work in the process. Joshua's inside game is streets ahead of Wilder's.

            However, I don't really see AJ as a 'devastating counter-puncher,' at least, not against quality opposition. I expect Fury to make him miss and tire him out, stopping him around the 9th or 10th.

            Other scenario's are available...
            Yes, no argument that quality opposition will always affect how well you can execute things against lesser opponents. Still think Joshua will find some decent opportunities to hurt Fury through counters.

            Joshua tiring will always be a risk -- I do think he and his team have been working on this though. A lot will depend on whether Fury is able to force the pace.

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            • Jack_sh*t
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              #36
              Originally posted by REDEEMER

              Yet this poster refuses to bet me that A.J stops him ?

              Oh he don’t bet doe ? Not even if I can only win by a Joshua stoppage. Don’t worry Silly you aren’t the only one and you aren’t the worse poster on here referring to Fury ,there’s a certain type of mentally classed Fury die hards that won’t even bet . But they aren’t cowards like you they don’t go around hiding behind other posters about others bets and get involved in it . Ha
              You know it's possible to bet with bookmakers, who will pay up when you win, without need to chase and harass them right? Just checking.

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                #37
                This is what happens when a fighter fights sub level competition. Same thing happened to Wilder. He fought bums for years and believed that he was unbeatable. Had he fought top ten heavyweights consistently like AJ did, he would have been beaten by now. Same thing with Fury. Fury has skipped over almost all of the top 20 in the last 5 years and he is somehow the best and unbeatable? Not even close. He's been very lucky, but not even close to being unbeatable. Boxing is fought in the ring, not with a lot of talking. Fury has convinced a lot of you that he can beat all these other fighters just because he says he can. But in reality, he actually have to FIGHT them to prove it. And a guy with 0 title defenses is not proving anything

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jack_sh*t

                  You know it's possible to bet with bookmakers, who will pay up when you win, without need to chase and harass them right? Just checking.
                  Have the book makers come on the forum telling me about other posters bets with me on here but won’t bet themselves ? Just checking .

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by thetruthteller
                    This is what happens when a fighter fights sub level competition. Same thing happened to Wilder. He fought bums for years and believed that he was unbeatable. Had he fought top ten heavyweights consistently like AJ did, he would have been beaten by now. Same thing with Fury. Fury has skipped over almost all of the top 20 in the last 5 years and he is somehow the best and unbeatable? Not even close. He's been very lucky, but not even close to being unbeatable. Boxing is fought in the ring, not with a lot of talking. Fury has convinced a lot of you that he can beat all these other fighters just because he says he can. But in reality, he actually have to FIGHT them to prove it. And a guy with 0 title defenses is not proving anything
                    This is a very painful truth for posters like denium and silly Billy who think a complicated explanation is needed to give A.J the win over Fury .

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by thetruthteller
                      This is what happens when a fighter fights sub level competition. Same thing happened to Wilder. He fought bums for years and believed that he was unbeatable. Had he fought top ten heavyweights consistently like AJ did, he would have been beaten by now. Same thing with Fury. Fury has skipped over almost all of the top 20 in the last 5 years and he is somehow the best and unbeatable? Not even close. He's been very lucky, but not even close to being unbeatable. Boxing is fought in the ring, not with a lot of talking. Fury has convinced a lot of you that he can beat all these other fighters just because he says he can. But in reality, he actually have to FIGHT them to prove it. And a guy with 0 title defenses is not proving anything

                      You think 40 year old glorified midgets Pulev/Povetkin/Takam would give Fury anything to think about?

                      An obese literal midget like Ruiz would make Fury even get out of 1st gear?

                      Parker gave up the ghost straight away against AJ, as we've seen he lacks a fighting spirit.


                      Fury will take AJ's head off.

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