Canelo needs to beat two black boxers convincingly to be an ATG

[Richie_R]

Lol, We must've watched 2 different fights because Mayweather DOMINATED AlvaRoid!

That was far from a dominating performance lol. It was basically a points win like Kev said. Dominating is what Barerra did Hamed, or pac to margarito, or calzage va lacy, or what Roy jones did to basically all his opponents when he was in his peak.

[TernceBudCharlo]

What privileges does Canelo benefit from? Would you say Andrade and Charlo have achieved the same as Canelo has in the sport?

To he honest I don't know why I'm bothering, racists such as yourself are too deep in the racial narrative tunnel of blame and self pity to only see racism where there is racism, you also need to see it where it isn't.

OK, how about this one. When Canelo fought Trout, despite having never fought a great boxer in his weight class, he had 50,000 screaming fans there for him, the fight was covered all over Showtime, espn, every media source, then when it was over they were hyping up Canelo as the greatest thing ever, and it earned him the biggest money PPV in boxing history next fight.

Fast forward a couple years for when Jermall Charlo fights Austin Trout. They fight in front of a few thousand people at a small venue in Vegas, nobody talks about this fight, Charlo still can't get good fights or build up a big fan base, no promotion by the media, nothing. Fans still say that Charlo hasn't fought anyone.

Can you not see the privilege there? Why is it that the same exact old institutional media treated Canelo like he was the next Muhammad Ali after that fight, but then when Charlo did the same thing nobody talked about him?

[-Kev-]

It was dominating, Mayweather was landing clean punches. I don't think Alvarez was trying to box smart, even if he decided to just march forward 'He cannot do that'.

Mayweather exploited Alvarez's, lack of gears, movement and stamina.

Canelo is one of Floyd best wins, one of the biggest names on his resume. As far as HOFers go, I would put Canelo as 2nd place after Pacquiao (in Floyd's resume).

As far as performances go, Floyd's done better.

When I think of domination, I think of Gatti, Corrales, Marquez, Hernandez, Mosley (after round 2), Chavez, Manfredy, etc.

But I guess the domination can be seen differently depending on who's watching.

[ShoulderRoll]

I never said Canelo didn't earn it, but he has privileges that Andrade and Charlo do not benefit from and that is a fact. This is the SYSTEM which has always held African American fighters to a higher standard, otherwise you'd see HBO, espn, everyone hyping up Andrade and Charlo.

White American fighters, just look at UFC and how they get supported.

Canlo fights everybody and now draws large crowds to see him. What he has isn't privilege, it's the fruits of his labor.

Why hasn't Charlo given Andrade a payday by accepting a fight with him? If nobody will fight them why don't they simply fight each other?

[TernceBudCharlo]

Canlo fights everybody and now draws large crowds to see him. What he has isn't privilege, it's the fruits of his labor.

Why hasn't Charlo given Andrade a payday by accepting a fight with him? If nobody will fight them why don't they simply fight each other?

Again. Never said he didn't earn it. Being able to benefit from the fruits of your labor from an institution of power that makes it much harder for others to benefit from the fruits of their labor is what privilege is. Both things can be true at the same time.

[ShoulderRoll]

Again. Never said he didn't earn it. Being able to benefit from the fruits of your labor from an institution of power that makes it much harder for others to benefit from the fruits of their labor is what privilege is. Both things can be true at the same time.

Charlo could benefit from the fruits of his labor too. He simply has to build his brand by being in better fights against better opponents.

Why not accept the callout from David Benavidez? If Charlo can't get 50,000 black fans to fill a stadium to see him then maybe he should blame his own lack of balls, instead of a lack of privilege.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Charlo could benefit from the fruits of his labor too. He simply has to build his brand by being in better fights against better opponents.

Why not accept the callout from David Benavidez? If Charlo can't get 50,000 black fans to fill a stadium for him then maybe he should blame his own lack of balls, instead of a lack of privilege.

I agree that Charlo needs to take that fight. But the standards are higher for him. If Canelo had KOd J-Roc in such brutal fashion, let's not pretend the institutional powers in boxing would have just ignored it the way they did to Charlo.

[Skillz12]

His only loss was to a black boxer and he was completely dominated and beaten like an amateur.

He has two other questionable win over two black boxers which he should have lost.

To be an ATG, he needs redemption by fighting Andrade and Charlo.

I know the Irish chula is scared of black boxers but for his career, he needs to man up and fight them.

Is this guy going to be banned for race baiting or is it ok because he’s Black??

[GrandpaBernard]

Canelo is one of Floyd best wins, one of the biggest names on his resume. As far as HOFers go, I would put Canelo as 2nd place after Pacquiao (in Floyd's resume).

As far as performances go, Floyd's done better.

When I think of domination, I think of Gatti, Corrales, Marquez, Hernandez, Mosley (after round 2), Chavez, Manfredy, etc.

But I guess the domination can be seen differently depending on who's watching.

Floyd didn't hurt Alvarez like he did those guys

because Alvarez is defensively responsible

[Skillz12]

Imagine if I had said X boxer needs to beat two white boxers convincigly to be an ATG? #DoubleStandards

You would honestly be banned

double standards here are horrible