Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Know I'm The Man at Heavyweight and I'll Be For a Long Time!

[DaNeutral.]

Why?

I'm a fan of boxing. I have no idea whats with a lot of these Joshua fans. You all strike me as majorly feminine. Its like you're a fan of the guy just because rather than anything he actually does in the ring. Crawford, Fury, Canelo, Spence...I feel people support these guys because of their talent. With Joshua I think its indicative of the weird social media bandwagon "relatability" culture we now have where we root for ones personality/looks first and their skillset/accomplishment after.

Parker, Martin and Ruiz are names that wont likely venture anywhere near the HoF. Fury's, Wlad's and Wilder's probably will. That's what people mean by a top heavyweight.

LOL I'm feminine because Im a fan of Anthony Joshua? So you saying he has no talent?

[OnlytheTruth]

What I responded to was the thought that Fury being undefeated is an issue, I can see that there are grounds to critique Fury.

I guess there isn't any metric to give a complete picture of a true HW ranking structure. Its all very much opinion and 'whats hot right now' (Ruiz after he beat Joshua).

I feel that because Fury is undefeated, it incorrectly puts him above Joshua - when Joshua has beaten way more top 10 guys, has defended his belts, won titles but the loss means Fury gets the nod at #1. That isn't right IMO because it puts value on fighting Wallin's, Schwarz's, Pianeta's and Seferi's over Parker's, Whyte's, Povetkin's and Pulev's.

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I guess there isn't any metric to give a complete picture of a true HW ranking structure. Its all very much opinion and 'whats hot right now' (Ruiz after he beat Joshua).

I feel that because Fury is undefeated, it incorrectly puts him above Joshua - when Joshua has beaten way more top 10 guys, has defended his belts, won titles but the loss means Fury gets the nod at #1. That isn't right IMO because it puts value on fighting Wallin's, Schwarz's, Pianeta's and Seferi's over Parker's, Whyte's, Povetkin's and Pulev's.

No it's because Fury's wins over long reigning champions Wlad and Wilder are miles better than anything Joshua has ever done.

Joshua's best win is still Fury's sloppy seconds.

See my sig, there's a reason why all the experts who compiled those rankings have Fury over Joshua.

[KingGilgamesh]

LOL I'm feminine because Im a fan of Anthony Joshua? So you saying he has no talent?

Absolutely not.

I'm saying his marketability comes before his talent.

[billeau2]

I guess there isn't any metric to give a complete picture of a true HW ranking structure. Its all very much opinion and 'whats hot right now' (Ruiz after he beat Joshua).

I feel that because Fury is undefeated, it incorrectly puts him above Joshua - when Joshua has beaten way more top 10 guys, has defended his belts, won titles but the loss means Fury gets the nod at #1. That isn't right IMO because it puts value on fighting Wallin's, Schwarz's, Pianeta's and Seferi's over Parker's, Whyte's, Povetkin's and Pulev's.

I hear you... But that is because of the comp Fury fought, not that he happens to be undefeated. I make this distinction because some fighters TRY to be unefeated and it can ruin them! Ricky Hatton is my prime example for this. The guy who rushed in, attacked the body, had foot speed and was a virtual swash buckler against Zoo, when his dad saw the quid on the table? became a dry humping, safety first mess, and by the time he fought Floyd to cash out, had little resemblance to the original hatton.

My point being, I don't think Fury is trying to be undefeated, fighting safety first in that regard. Both Joshua and Fury have plus and minus with respect to comp... I can understand either side of the argument because to me its not an important indicator for who will win.

[KP1]

No it's because Fury's wins over long reigning champions Wlad and Wilder are miles better than anything Joshua has ever done.

Joshua's best win is still Fury's sloppy seconds.

See my sig, there's a reason why all the experts who compiled those rankings have Fury over Joshua.

Yet Fury had a mental breakdown over fighting those sloppy seconds, that or he flat out ducked.

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Yet Fury had a mental breakdown over fighting those sloppy seconds, that or he flat out ducked.

Nah, he just suffered from a crippling depression because he reached the top of the world and then realised that the only way was down.

Why would Fury duck a man that he won every round against, and who he had been calling out for the previous 4 years?

Tyson Fury has proven that he's scared of no man, unlike Joshua who didn't want anything to do with Deontay Wilder.

[KP1]

Nah, he just suffered from a crippling depression because he reached the top of the world and then realised that the only way was down.

Why would Fury duck a man that he won every round against, and who he had been calling out for the previous 4 years?

Tyson Fury has proven that he's scared of no man, unlike Joshua who didn't want anything to do with Deontay Wilder.

Why indeed.

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Why indeed.

Why are Matchroom fanboys such as yourself such massive casuals?

Stop wanking over Hearn ifltv videos and actually watch some boxing you dunce.