Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Know I'm The Man at Heavyweight and I'll Be For a Long Time!

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  • billeau2
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    #31
    Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
    The fickle nature of boxing fans have put all of the pressure onto Fury. He's been put on this pedestal because he is undefeated - when really, that's the only reason he's #1. Not because he 'head and shoulders' above AJ - as some deluded trolls believe.

    I'm not even saying this to provoke any of those clowns but if AJ beats Fury - Fury will probably kill himself. Either with drink, drugs or suicide. Seriously; the guy will need to be looked after.
    As much as this thread is a sht slinging extravaganza, some things need a rebutal: This is a very silly thing to say. Fury is not talked up because he is undefeated, anymore than most people believe Joshua is doomed because he lost to Ruiz. Fury has skills, he beat Klitsko in dominant fashion, handled Wilder twice... And if one with strong opinions can be persuaded WATCH Fury fight, the skills are obvious.

    Joshua is at a point right now where he will do one of two things in this fight: Fold and be outclassed... Or, show that he has jelled, learned enough, to take it up a notch and present a challenge to Fury. I don't think Joshua will, though I do think he has the potential to do so, I mean, it woiuld not shock me and I would gladly eat that crow to have a possible ATG competition brewing in the heavyweight division. Some people I hold in high regard for their opinions think Joshua can do it... and I take that seriously as a qualified opinion better or at least equal to my own two cents.

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      #32
      Originally posted by TMLT87

      How do you know he ducked Wilder rather than vice versa?

      Wilder was far more protected than Joshua. He was on his 40th fight, 7th title defence and 10th year as a pro when he fought Ortiz.

      As for a fight between them. Both big hitters with shaky chins. But Wilder has been hurt by worse opposition (Sconiers, Molina, Washington) and is much more one dimensional and basic.

      Fury should beat AJ but I dont think its entirely clear right now how much the Fury/Wilder fights were down to Fury being great vs Wilders just being bad. Its probably a mix of the two.
      Easy buddy! your stomping on a favorite tradition here, and at other boxing sites: People are really smart and can tell when a boxer is scared... Allegedlly AJ emits a pherimone when the name "Wilder" comes up, then he starts to stutter a bit... Can't you smell it? Also, people know exactly what the promoters are up to! Every bit of it!

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      • MANNY67
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        #33
        Don’t really rate Joshua ,not really proved himself and I think even a 54 year old Tyson will ask him some questions,so I think fury will come out on top

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          #34
          Tyson Fury ended the Klitschko era and stopped Wilder.

          He is the man at heavyweight until someone knocks him off.

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            #35
            Holds most the belts and is the sports cash cow. All he has to do is beat Fury and become undisputed and, well it can't be disputed.

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            • famicommander
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              #36
              To be the man, you gotta beat the man! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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              Tyson Fury is the lineal champion and the Ring champion. He's the man.

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                #37
                All this talk of Joshua never fighting a top 2 and Fury fighting 2 top 2's, Wlad is 1, who is the other?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Tyson Fury ended the Klitschko era and stopped Wilder.

                  He is the man at heavyweight until someone knocks him off.
                  What's so amazing about beating Wilder? Who has Wilder beaten to make him such a great?

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                  • Leonbus2
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                    #39
                    Who are Fury, Wilder, and Joshua supposed to fight aside from each other? Saying that any of the three has never fought anyone is so dumb. We can't just create a super being for these guys to fight to prove themselves.

                    They can only fight really existing human boxers. If Parker, Brazeale, Ortiz, Klitschko, Ruiz, Martín, Povotkin, Whyte, Arreola, Takum, Wallin, etc. constitute never fighting anyone, then nobody has fought anybody in the last five years!

                    The main problem is that when they do fight each other the value of the fight, in terms of competition has been preemptively negated since it will be two fighters who haven't fought anybody fighting each other. Thereby, rendering the fight valueless in terms of level of competition.
                    Last edited by Leonbus2; 05-05-2021, 09:22 PM.

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                    • OnlytheTruth
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      As much as this thread is a sht slinging extravaganza, some things need a rebutal: This is a very silly thing to say. Fury is not talked up because he is undefeated, anymore than most people believe Joshua is doomed because he lost to Ruiz. Fury has skills, he beat Klitsko in dominant fashion, handled Wilder twice... And if one with strong opinions can be persuaded WATCH Fury fight, the skills are obvious.

                      Joshua is at a point right now where he will do one of two things in this fight: Fold and be outclassed... Or, show that he has jelled, learned enough, to take it up a notch and present a challenge to Fury. I don't think Joshua will, though I do think he has the potential to do so, I mean, it woiuld not shock me and I would gladly eat that crow to have a possible ATG competition brewing in the heavyweight division. Some people I hold in high regard for their opinions think Joshua can do it... and I take that seriously as a qualified opinion better or at least equal to my own two cents.
                      Look, there are two sides to every fence, and I respect what you have said but I am really not convinced that Fury is really all that he is said to be. I will concede that in terms of trickiness, movement etc, he is unparalleled - especially because of his size. However, there is a list of things wrong with Fury, and his career, that is also unparalleled.

                      I could rant about it all day - bottom line, the fight needs to happen and IMO Joshua KO's Fury.

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