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Comments Thread For: Billy Joe Saunders, Father Raising Hell Over Ring Size For Canelo Fight
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Originally posted by petegrif View PostIt sounds like BJS is just making a fuss. But he isn't. He has a legit point. Look at it this way.
Canelo definitely has a real advantage with the crowd and the judges. I don't think anyone seriously doubts that.
AND he's supposed to be the number 1 PPP.
So what's the big deal giving him a bigger ring?
IF Canelo thinks he's going to walk BJS down and kick his ass, what does another couple of feet in ring size matter?
Before all this blew up I don't remember a single person saying "Well, as long as the ring isn't bigger than 20 ft I'm sure C will kick his ass, but if it's 22 ft I'm not so sure. Maybe BJS will have a chance given those 2 extra feet?
NOBODY talked about ring size before. Why is that? Doesn't ring size matter? Maybe history can help us here.
For those who don't know ring has long been a point of negotiation with movers wanting bigger rings. "Leonard insisted on three conditions for the fight that would be crucial to his strategy; first the ring was to be 22x22ft instead of a smaller ring"
I think we can agree that Leonard wasn't a ***** but he wanted a bigger ring. He knew it mattered. And BJS knows it matters.
And Canelo knows it matters against BJS which is why he isn't just saying 'sure, whatever, 22 ft it is'. If C was really so confident he would just give him the 2 ft and prove he is the best.
So don't pretend ring size doesn't matter.
Canelo's still got the crowd and the judges in his pocket. Surely the PPP No. 1 doesn't have to load ALL the dice in his favor, or is that part of how you stay No 1 PPP?
Makes you think.
Surely you can respect Canelo without thinking he needs everything in his favor. Have a little faith in the guy. Let's create a setting that gives them both a chance to shine then let the best man win.
Sander's doesn't have any authority to dictate ring size in the way Leonard did. You can't even compare the situation's.
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Originally posted by TheCell8 View PostEveryone's a gangster, until it's time to be a gangster. Or in Travelers' case: when they say they'll fight you, they really mean they want to ambush you and knife you in an alley. Stick to guitar playing, you weirdos!
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
canelo biggest diva in the sport...
- numerous rehydration clauses
- numerous catchweights to the point where he created his own weight class
- dumping belts to avoid mandatories like prime ggg. didn't fight ggg until he looked human against Jacobs
- avoided third ggg rematch after getting a big fat gift. almost all media and peoples had ggg winning second fight not him.
- not giving his opponents proper training camps. kovalev had only a month or less to prepare following a fight where he almost got ko'ed. no recovery time at all. callum only had 3 weeks to prepare while canelo had him in mind for a few months already training in preparation.
- failed drug tests should have him shunned from the sport
etc etc etc
Canelo consistently fights the best and tries to fight the best. Borat keeps fighting branch managers from Home Depot or construction workers...GGG turned down Canelo 3 so he could fight Szermeta. Yikes.
Every Canelo opponent ever has had proper training time. Canelo and Callum Smith were in negotiations for weeks prior to announcement. If Canelo was training that whole time why wasnt Callum ?
Canelo uses FAIR WEIGHT for much bigger fighters. Ofc he needs to limit his disadvantage. Borat wouldn't even fight Ward at 168 after offering Froch and JCC Jr the fight at 168...said Ward needed to fight at 164 lmfaooo
Ca$hnelo stunted on Borat in their 2nd fight. Was a great day in American history, probably Mexican history too
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Originally posted by BestPR View PostAll fights should be fair and square...right down the middle, from beginning to end.
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Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post
LOL...YDKSAB!!!!
Alvarez is the A-side, when Sander becomes the A-side and brings in the money with his name...then he can talk.
I don't see them doing it. Nor in history. Why are you so weak you need to do this all the time? Are your cowards not good enough to win in a fair fight?
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Originally posted by Verus View PostWhat a drama queen...always playing the victim. Saunders doesn't have the cojones to fight Canelo. I posted on this site before this fight was announced that Saunders would sabotage the fight, as will Caleb Plant. Let Saunders walk. He and his old man whining like babies get old fast. Speaking of dads. I recall that Benavidez's dad said that David was training to substitute for Saunders if the fight fell through at the last minute. I would rather see Canelo vs Benavidez than suffer more ******ities from these people.
Interesting thoughts you have in your head. Interesting you're actually in favour of a cheating fraud. But you call yourself a sports fan? No, you're a weirdo. Nothing more.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
BJS has given in to "countless demands" from Canelo? Are they really "countless?" Maybe you could list just the first five or six? This guy and his dad are shook to hell. If he screws up this fight over what is a standard size ring, his career is OVER. Which guy is the diva?
How dare Billy ask for a ring where he can actually move instead of it being tiny so Canelo can be on top of him without really moving, not with his supposed skill we keep on hearing about, no. But with a small ring so he doesn't have to cut the ring off.
Canelo is a fraud. So are his fanatics. The same people who screamed that Floyd was a coward (He is) like they wouldn't do such things. But here we are with Canelo doing much worse, and the freaks in full support of it all. Haha. You couldn't make this shlt up. Well, you could. If you're dealing with freaks and weirdos anyway.
F3cking cowards. The lot of you. If only you had honour and the ability to feel some kind of shame.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
The A side is allowed to rip off the opponent? They're allowed to cheat? Other than Mexicans and Americans, which other nations A sides do this on a regular basis to their opponents like cowards and frauds?
I don't see them doing it. Nor in history. Why are you so weak you need to do this all the time? Are your cowards not good enough to win in a fair fight?
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Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
Coward Gypsy! It would be a greater win if Billy-Hoe Saunders refuses to fight! petero , Gypsy-John, Tyson Phooey, Billy-Jean, ALL THREE have ducked their rivals the last 2 years : Micky Theo, the 'Bronze-Bomber' Deontay Wilder and Saul Alvarez! You call yourselves fighting men, but you do more running than fighting, BUK-BUK-BUK-BUK!
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