Comments Thread For: Billy Joe Saunders, Father Raising Hell Over Ring Size For Canelo Fight

[NachoMan]

You believe the ring size is the only cowardly act Canelo has committed? How about draining fighters, not giving them enough time to prepare, waiting them to age, corrupt score cards etc etc...?

Then throw in the fact Canelo will not allow Saunders to have a judge he's comfortable with. Canelo is having the judges he wants. He's a cheating fraud, and you know it.

Boy, do you know has to stack the bull****. 1. Canelo is giving BJS the biggest ring he's ever fought in. 2.This fight is at 168lbs, Saunders' natural weight. Not sure why you would suggest that he has been weight-drained by Canelo. 3. The Canelo-Saunders fight was announced back in February after the Yildirim fight. Not sure why you would suggest that BJS wasn't given a full training camp (and more) to prepare. 4. BJS is one year older than Canelo, so how has he waited him out here? 5. The fight is tomorrow, so the score cards have yet to be written. 6. BJS is on record declaring that he is very happy with the judges, saying that they are the fairest and most competent judges he could ask for. None of the judges are Mexican or English. They are all Americans and none of them are Texan or Latino. NOTHING of your rant is true. If you have some complaint or allegation about some other Canelo fight then maybe that's a different thread you can start? Stay focused on this fight. You just seem super desperate to discredit Canelo no matter what happens tomorrow.

[Mason Brown]

So whether the ring size affects the outcome or not depends upon your opinion of how good the fighters are?

It's obviously not just my opinion, do you think the gap in calibre between Saunders and Canelo is small enough that ring size will determine the winner of the fight? If so, that's a highly controversial, likely biased opinion. Do you think Hughie Fury would beat Joshua in a big ring but not in a small ring? If it was a 50/50 fight with one fighter being a lot more likely to benefit from a big ring than the other, like if Stanionis fights James, then I think the ring size is easily important enough to determine the winner, but the gap between arguably the p4p best, and Saunders, is too big for the outcome to depend on the ring size.

There's no need for these ****** pictures, is there? That just shows ignorance and lack of objectivity.

[Mason Brown]

Boy, do you know has to stack the bull****. 1. Canelo is giving BJS the biggest ring he's ever fought in. 2.This fight is at 168lbs, Saunders' natural weight. Not sure why you would suggest that he has been weight-drained by Canelo. 3. The Canelo-Saunders fight was announced back in February after the Yildirim fight. Not sure why you would suggest that BJS wasn't given a full training camp (and more) to prepare. 4. BJS is one year older than Canelo, so how has he waited him out here? 5. The fight is tomorrow, so the score cards have yet to be written. 6. BJS is on record declaring that he is very happy with the judges, saying that they are the fairest and most competent judges he could ask for. None of the judges are Mexican or English. They are all Americans and none of them are Texan or Latino. NOTHING of your rant is true. If you have some complaint or allegation about some other Canelo fight then maybe that's a different thread you can start? Stay focused on this fight. You just seem super desperate to discredit Canelo no matter what happens tomorrow.

Some people will never give Canelo his credit, I suppose every great fighters has haters.

[kafkod]

It's obviously not just my opinion, do you think the gap in calibre between Saunders and Canelo is small enough that ring size will determine the winner of the fight? If so, that's a highly controversial, likely biased opinion. Do you think Hughie Fury would beat Joshua in a big ring but not in a small ring? If it was a 50/50 fight with one fighter being a lot more likely to benefit from a big ring than the other, like if Stanionis fights James, then I think the ring size is easily important enough to determine the winner, but the gap between arguably the p4p best, and Saunders, is too big for the outcome to depend on the ring size.

There's no need for these ****** pictures, is there? That just shows ignorance and lack of objectivity.

All I can do is point out that the whole of your first paragraph is nothing but you expressing your own subjective opinions. You even used the phrase "arguably the P4P best". If that was an objective fact, there wouldn't be any arguably about it!

Canelo and BJS are going to fight in a boxing ring tomorrow night. Until the fight is over, nobody can say objectively which of them is better than the other, or whether there is any gap in class between them.

[Mason Brown]

All I can do is point out that the whole of your first paragraph is nothing but you expressing your own subjective opinions. You even used the phrase "arguably the P4P best". If that was an objective fact, there wouldn't be any arguably about it!

Canelo and BJS are going to fight in a boxing ring tomorrow night. Until the fight is over, nobody can say objectively which of them is better than the other, or whether there is any gap in class between them.

You're just nitpicking at this stage. He's undeniably top 3, I have him ranked the best and so do most people, we don't know anything for sure, but Canelo is the very, very heavy favourite he is for good reasons, are you an idiot?

[kafkod]

You're just nitpicking at this stage. He's undeniably top 3, I have him ranked the best and so do most people, we don't know anything for sure, but Canelo is the very, very heavy favourite he is for good reasons, are you an idiot?

I can't answer that question objectively because I am naturally biased towards myself.

In my subjective opinion, you are going to have to alter your ranking of Canelo after the fight tomorrow.

[Sid-Knee]

Boy, do you know has to stack the bull****. 1. Canelo is giving BJS the biggest ring he's ever fought in. 2.This fight is at 168lbs, Saunders' natural weight. Not sure why you would suggest that he has been weight-drained by Canelo. 3. The Canelo-Saunders fight was announced back in February after the Yildirim fight. Not sure why you would suggest that BJS wasn't given a full training camp (and more) to prepare. 4. BJS is one year older than Canelo, so how has he waited him out here? 5. The fight is tomorrow, so the score cards have yet to be written. 6. BJS is on record declaring that he is very happy with the judges, saying that they are the fairest and most competent judges he could ask for. None of the judges are Mexican or English. They are all Americans and none of them are Texan or Latino. NOTHING of your rant is true. If you have some complaint or allegation about some other Canelo fight then maybe that's a different thread you can start? Stay focused on this fight. You just seem super desperate to discredit Canelo no matter what happens tomorrow.

I wasn't talking about Saunders with the draining and not giving enough time to prepare. I was talking about Canelo's other opponents.

But to say 168 is Joe's natural weight is pushing it. I'm not saying it's too much for him. But 160 would be the ideal. However i'm not going to use the weight as a reason should Saunders lose. I'm good with it.

Billy is only saying that about the judges because he doesn't want to deal with the stress so close to the fight. He needs to be relaxed as possible. But Canelo knows the advantage of having a stressed opponent in the opposite corner who feels they can't win. It forces some to open up too much to compensate for the stacked deck which plays straight into the hands of Canelo because he'll get more chances to get his own shots off. Canelo doesn't need to open up at all considering he knows he'll get the round no matter what. That keeps a fighter stress free, unlike his poor opponent he's f3cked over.

I can't discredit Canelo if it's all true what i'm saying. Tell me which part isn't true?

[BodyBagz]

There's a storm brewing

[NachoMan]

I wasn't talking about Saunders with the draining and not giving enough time to prepare. I was talking about Canelo's other opponents.

But to say 168 is Joe's natural weight is pushing it. I'm not saying it's too much for him. But 160 would be the ideal. However i'm not going to use the weight as a reason should Saunders lose. I'm good with it.

Billy is only saying that about the judges because he doesn't want to deal with the stress so close to the fight. He needs to be relaxed as possible. But Canelo knows the advantage of having a stressed opponent in the opposite corner who feels they can't win. It forces some to open up too much to compensate for the stacked deck which plays straight into the hands of Canelo because he'll get more chances to get his own shots off. Canelo doesn't need to open up at all considering he knows he'll get the round no matter what. That keeps a fighter stress free, unlike his poor opponent he's f3cked over.

I can't discredit Canelo if it's all true what i'm saying. Tell me which part isn't true?

Every single part of your post was factually inaccurate. None of it was true. We are talking about Canelo - Saunders and you are going on about a list of complaints you have about Canelo in past fights. There is nothing structured to favor Canelo in this fight. If BJS kicks ass and gets screwed on the scorecards I will be the first to say so, but until that happens everything you’re crying about is just pure bs excuses. I sincerely think you are incapable of giving credit to Canelo no matter what happens.

[Sid-Knee]

Every single part of your post was factually inaccurate. None of it was true. We are talking about Canelo - Saunders and you are going on about a list of complaints you have about Canelo in past fights. There is nothing structured to favor Canelo in this fight. If BJS kicks ass and gets screwed on the scorecards I will be the first to say so, but until that happens everything you’re crying about is just pure bs excuses. I sincerely think you are incapable of giving credit to Canelo no matter what happens.

What part is "Factually inaccurate"? Sorry, but you're talking rubbish. Be specific too.

Saunders was leading on my card after 8. But did you see those cards for Canelo? They were the usual laughable Canelo cards he always gets. It's pure delusion and desperation to justify the crook.