Comments Thread For: Canelo: Golovkin Was One Of The Persons Who I Have Most Wanted To Cut Their Head Off

[Jab jab boom]

you think is fun?
like i said, if it was the other way you and the other ggg stans will be crying all over the forum...

you canelo cult members are so pathetic that you even make up false narratives. “Ohh such a brave man canelo is going into the ggg fight after his brother was kidnapped and held for ransom. This was the behavior of a true warrior.” Meanwhile The kidnapping occurred before his fight with C level cherry picked opponent fielding, not ggg.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Wait a minute, you fail a drug test, GGG rightfully gets mad at you for failing a drug test and calls you out on it over and over, and GGG is supposed to be the bad guy? What kind of morally corrupt world are we living in?

[_Rexy_]

How dare someone call you a cheater for being caught cheating.

[#1PaperChamp]

So happy Canelo whooped that Borat joker.

Borat still hasn't recovered..and neither have his clown fans lmao

[TernceBudCharlo]

How dare someone call you a cheater for being caught cheating.

What a terrible thing to do

[icha]

you canelo cult members are so pathetic that you even make up false narratives. “Ohh such a brave man canelo is going into the ggg fight after his brother was kidnapped and held for ransom. This was the behavior of a true warrior.” Meanwhile The kidnapping occurred before his fight with C level cherry picked opponent fielding, not ggg.

look at my posts before, i clearly asked if it was for that fight, im not sure which of the two fights he had that year was it, did you see the date of the kidnapping somewhere?? anyways, a kidnap of a brother is not a small thing regardless of who you are fighting...

[Jab jab boom]

look at my posts before, i clearly asked if it was for that fight, im not sure which of the two fights he had that year was it, did you see the date of the kidnapping somewhere?? anyways, a kidnap of a brother is not a small thing regardless of who you are fighting...

tmz clearly states it was before his fight with fielding.

[petegrif]

He's a terrific fighter but this attempt to whitewash getting course using clen doesn't cut it.
I looked into it in some detail at the time. The amount of clen in his body was NOT the kind of traces you can get from tainted meat. It was unnaturally high. And the fact that it isn't a steroid does not mean it isn't performance enhancing. It does help burn fat, build muscle and enhance performance. GGG was actually correct.
There are however other signs of the possible use of performance enhancing drugs. There is a very real limit to the amount of lean muscle that an athlete can put on in a given period e.g. in one month. People vary for sure, but there are real limits because there just is a cycle time required for a clean body to clean up the damage done by stressing the body with the necessary heavy exercise to build muscle and to circulate the necessary proteins into the muscle to rebuild the muscle and to do so bigger. This has been studied in enormous depth by sports scientists and, as you can imagine, by bodybuilders. So let's just park that reality for a moment.
Now bear in mind that boxers weigh in for fights, typically the day before. But when they do so they are absolutely ripped, they have flushed most of the water out of their bodies and the amount of glycogen in their muscle is cut back. So when you look at them on the scales they are pretty much reduced to internal organs, skin, skeleton and lean muscle. Why is this important? Because let's say a fighter competes at 160 then in his next fight at 168. If he flushed and ripped for both weigh ins that pretty much means he has gained 8 pounds of lean muscle. So the question is, how long does it take to put on that much muscle naturally? If you know the answer to that, within a range for sure, then you know whether the fighter has been using. If they have put on the 8 pounds say in three months that is a tough thing to do. The overwhelming majority of people can't put on more than half a pound of muscle a week even if all they are doing is strength training and resting. And bear in mind that boxers aren't body builders. Boxers aren't just doing strength training to maximize muscle gains.
Let's take an example. Canelo fought Jacobs on 2019-5-04 then fought Kovalev on 29-11-02. Was it possible for him to put on the pounds of lean muscle to step up to light heavy for that fight. I think so. It's about 6 months so if he was doing nothing but strength training he might expect to naturally put on about 12 pounds. And he was moving up from 168 to 175 which is 'only' 7 pounds. IMHO therefore that is feasible for him to do it naturally though it is tough because as noted he would not have been training just for muscle gains. Looking over Canelo's record his weight gains have been very carefully managed typically with months between fights so I believe it is perfectly feasible for him to have made the gains without steroids. This cannot be said for all fighters! (analyzing the Jones move up to heavyweight would be interesting).

[_Rexy_]

Nah it was the Fielding fight.

Way different, no focus required for that one


Not to mention he already has like 11 brothers.

[greeneye99]

He's a terrific fighter but this attempt to whitewash getting course using clen doesn't cut it.
I looked into it in some detail at the time. The amount of clen in his body was NOT the kind of traces you can get from tainted meat. It was unnaturally high. And the fact that it isn't a steroid does not mean it isn't performance enhancing. It does help burn fat, build muscle and enhance performance. GGG was actually correct.
There are however other signs of the possible use of performance enhancing drugs. There is a very real limit to the amount of lean muscle that an athlete can put on in a given period e.g. in one month. People vary for sure, but there are real limits because there just is a cycle time required for a clean body to clean up the damage done by stressing the body with the necessary heavy exercise to build muscle and to circulate the necessary proteins into the muscle to rebuild the muscle and to do so bigger. This has been studied in enormous depth by sports scientists and, as you can imagine, by bodybuilders. So let's just park that reality for a moment.
Now bear in mind that boxers weigh in for fights, typically the day before. But when they do so they are absolutely ripped, they have flushed most of the water out of their bodies and the amount of glycogen in their muscle is cut back. So when you look at them on the scales they are pretty much reduced to internal organs, skin, skeleton and lean muscle. Why is this important? Because let's say a fighter competes at 160 then in his next fight at 168. If he flushed and ripped for both weigh ins that pretty much means he has gained 8 pounds of lean muscle. So the question is, how long does it take to put on that much muscle naturally? If you know the answer to that, within a range for sure, then you know whether the fighter has been using. If they have put on the 8 pounds say in three months that is a tough thing to do. The overwhelming majority of people can't put on more than half a pound of muscle a week even if all they are doing is strength training and resting. And bear in mind that boxers aren't body builders. Boxers aren't just doing strength training to maximize muscle gains.
Let's take an example. Canelo fought Jacobs on 2019-5-04 then fought Kovalev on 29-11-02. Was it possible for him to put on the pounds of lean muscle to step up to light heavy for that fight. I think so. It's about 6 months so if he was doing nothing but strength training he might expect to naturally put on about 12 pounds. And he was moving up from 168 to 175 which is 'only' 7 pounds. IMHO therefore that is feasible for him to do it naturally though it is tough because as noted he would not have been training just for muscle gains. Looking over Canelo's record his weight gains have been very carefully managed typically with months between fights so I believe it is perfectly feasible for him to have made the gains without steroids. This cannot be said for all fighters! (analyzing the Jones move up to heavyweight would be interesting).

This should be an Article not a post
sheeesh....