Comments Thread For: Arum Frustrated: Hearn 'Radio Silent' on Fury-Joshua Site Deal, Fury Might Fight Wilder Next!

[billeau2]

That's not my point. It should be TWO teams running around, Todd Duboef could be the guy from Team Top Rank. No make sure they both have the same infos. Not just Arum waiting on Hearn for infos.

Your a smart poster so let me ask you something: Do you really think, with the kind of money in this fight, that if Arum, Warren, the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker... would not do everything they could to make this fight? There is no motivation for any promoter to just sit down and wait, if Arum had a path he would work it...

Consider the circumstances. pre covid, tepid heavyweight division, burgoning division/coming along, the amount of money involved... How does a fight like this get made? Put yourself in the position of trying to get these two guys 50 Mil a piece, which is less than they want. To negotiate with the Saudise one needs connections. There are fight sports there but... the scale of this fight? Its a bear.

[FLY TY]

Eddie has been managing expectations by giving details on his estimated timetable for different steps to getting the fight done and , yes, those estimates have been repeatedly optimistic. It cuts both ways. You make the valid point that he risks undermining confidence in what he is saying. At the same time, he keeps fans in the loop and lets people know that wheels are turning.

If he had kept quiet the last few months, the assumption would be that nothing is happening and everyone would be bitching about that just as much.

I don't think fans care to be in the loop, especially when your "updates" are constantly being undermined by the other side. Instead of fans feeling like they're in the loop, they're left to question what's really going on.

Just say you're working hard, and the fight is close, and announce it when it's done. Hearn's been saying since February the fight is close, and all points are agreed, why three months later have we not gotten an announcement?

All I'm saying, is sometimes talking less is more. We don't need "updates" every week from Hearn, when somebody on Fury's side contradicts it the next day. Its not a good look.

[juggernaut666]

Thats the point... People are ridiculous talking about what Arum and Warren should be doing, how naive lol. The scale and money involved with this, at this time & place is unrealistic. hearns is trying an angle, and I am glad he is trying to do so, but its incredibly tough to get a fight like this, cash in escrow, contract signed. this is what more level headed people have been saying. Arum most certainly would make this fight if he could...

It is Hearn's interest to try... and he has to have momentum and so, he will paint a rosy picture. Its to be expected IMO.

I can’t see this fight not happening. If it doesn’t at the immediate moment they better ( all promoters ) have a great explanation with some attachments of Joshua and Fury still included because it’s become bigger then the fight itself ,it has boxing’s reputation on the line with the dragged out process . Hearn will get the blame but really the other promoters could have involved themselves in some way ,maybe educate themselves and go with Hearn ? I don’t know ,you can’t really blame one guy and he would have avoided Fury if he didn’t want the fight .

[billeau2]

I can’t see this fight not happening. If it doesn’t at the immediate moment they better ( all promoters ) have a great explanation with some attachments of Joshua and Fury still included because it’s become bigger then the fight itself ,it has boxing’s reputation on the line with the dragged out process . Hearn will get the blame but really the other promoters could have involved themselves in some way ,maybe educate themselves and go with Hearn ? I don’t know ,you can’t really blame one guy and he would have avoided Fury if he didn’t want the fight .

Oh it will eventually happen... Eddie might even get it done, but its a tough nut to crack. I wouldn't blame any promoter here, I also would take all their assertions skeptically. Eddie has an angle, I am glad he is trying. If I were in his position I would do what he is doing and try to get the money together.

[juggernaut666]

Oh it will eventually happen... Eddie might even get it done, but its a tough nut to crack. I wouldn't blame any promoter here, I also would take all their assertions skeptically. Eddie has an angle, I am glad he is trying. If I were in his position I would do what he is doing and try to get the money together.

From what I see on Fury himself he thinks the fight is happening even posted himself in Vegas high energy with Sugar Hill I got the impression it’s on I would go on that considering he and Hearn actually met and discussed it recently . Fury calls the shots more then anyone just cause he thinks he’s running the show and it’s about him as he should but Joshua is the money man .

[Motorcity Cobra]

Your a smart poster so let me ask you something: Do you really think, with the kind of money in this fight, that if Arum, Warren, the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker... would not do everything they could to make this fight? There is no motivation for any promoter to just sit down and wait, if Arum had a path he would work it...

Right! If Bob & Warren knew where to get $150 mil they would've gotten it. Arum can't even get $50 million for Pacquiao vs Crawford. Eddie told them he had some investors in Saudi & Bob/Warren agreed to make the fight for the money Eddie offered them. The only thing Bob & Warren can do is try to make the fight in Vegas and have both agree to a lot less than what Eddie promised them.

[Curt Henning]

call wilder whatever youd like..make fun of him...say whatever....and im not arum fan either....but this is why wilder/AJ was never made...hearn is garbage and looking to protect this kid...its been obvious but becomes more clear by the day

[Monty Fisto]

He's already undrmined confidence. Do any of you worked in any kind of professional capacity...like ever? You can't just keep promising to meet a deadline "in two weeks" for three months.

This is NOT keeping people in the loop. Telling your stakeholders that completion on a project is approaching soon only to come out and say that's its completed but "in need of an agreed location" in order for it to be "fully" complete is the height of unprofessionalism.

Maybe the stakeholders will fire him and bring in another project manager... Except that can't happen because it's not remotely like he's working on a project and telling stakeholders anything, is it?

[Monty Fisto]

I don't think fans care to be in the loop, especially when your "updates" are constantly being undermined by the other side. Instead of fans feeling like they're in the loop, they're left to question what's really going on.

Just say you're working hard, and the fight is close, and announce it when it's done. Hearn's been saying since February the fight is close, and all points are agreed, why three months later have we not gotten an announcement?

All I'm saying, is sometimes talking less is more. We don't need "updates" every week from Hearn, when somebody on Fury's side contradicts it the next day. Its not a good look.

So on the one hand, you advise he should just say the fight is close, but on the other you are upset because he's been saying the fight is close?

[KingGilgamesh]

Maybe the stakeholders will fire him and bring in another project manager... Except that can't happen because it's not remotely like he's working on a project and telling stakeholders anything, is it?

Actually I stand corrected.

We're not stakeholders, we're customers. Does that make his dithering better? You've just acknowledged that its behaviour worthy of firing but because its the customer he's fleecing its somehow...better? LOL