Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr. Does Not Believe Canelo Will Eclipse His Status in Mexico

[Marchegiano]

You are cracked! Power Rangers and Wilder fan:

Yes, I see your point

[Sid-Knee]

Someone else already mentioned Rosendo and you tried to discredit a SD victory as if a SD isn't a valid victory. Petelo, Grisby, and Alex Sanchez were also world champions. Like I already stated.....never compare a bum like Charlie Edwards, who has only beaten 1 world champion and been stopped twice.....to a fighter that has faced more world champions, holds more titles, and never been stopped let alone taken a loss.

And my comments about Naseem is not a straw man argument when Im using it to show how the same thing youre accusing Finito of doing is the same exact thing that Naseem did, but Naseem is viewed as a legend in the UK yet you call Finito a "joke". Finito never got his ass beaten into basically retiring.

The Rosendo fights were robberies. You can even watch the fights on YouTube. Lopez did not win those fights. But Mexicans can lose every round and still have nut-jobs claim the Mexican won the fight. Give me your score? What rounds did they each win?

Having a world title doesn't make you world class. Look at Liam Smith, Tevin Farmer, Deontay Wilder, Demetrius Andrade, Shakur Stevenson for examples. None of them have beaten a single proven world level fighter yet.

Minimum weight is basically like Women's boxing. It's complete trash. They're not world level. Only a few countries have people that small to compete in them. Hell, look at Phothong. He was fighting fighters who were making their debut as a "World champion". That's how bad it is. Look at how many losses the fighters had before he fought them? They were absolute garbage. Yet he had how many "World title" fights? Name these world level fighters he fought? Please. I'd love to see you try.

That's who Petelo took the title from. He was a bum. Petelo had 24 fights in 22 years. That's basically 1 fight a year for his whole career. Haha. He had 5 losses and 2 draws as well. Why do you think their resumes are shockingly bad? It's because the competition is trash, and there isn't many fighters that small.

Utaida was a "Champ" too. He even fought someone called Iskandar who had 4 fights, but all of them were losses. Haha.

Grigsby isn't too bad as he has the win over Burgos. But that's all he has. But even Burgos lost his first 4 fights and has a total of 15 losses and 3 draws. How many fighters have resumes this bad? They don't, unless they're complete turkey's. Burgos was also 31 years old by that point, which is old for fighters that small.

Same with Sanchez, all he has is the win over Burgos, with the rest of them too worthless for words.

So lets say Alex Sanchez and Will Grigsby are 2 good wins for arguments sake, you think wins over these two make you a legend? Lopez lost the two fights to the best fighter he fought in Rosendo, but got a gift draw and win. 2 good wins do not make you a legend. Only delusion would allow anyone to make such deranged remarks.

Why are you saying Edwards was stopped twice when it was only once against a real fighter and champion in Casimero? And in only his 8th fight? Martinez was given a No Decision for a foul. Are you dis*****g this cheat shot? Martinez is allowed to cheat and that's fine? Are you unaware that hitting someone while they're down is illegal? It's why Martinez didn't get the win. Charlie won the first 2 rounds, Martinez would have won the 3rd 10-8 had he not cheated with the sucker shot. So Charlie was actually winning the fight until Martinez cheated.

Are you dis*****g the fact that it was Sulimain that made sure Martinez didn't get the title by cheating?

You clearly don't know what a strawman argument is if you're dis*****g using a strawman argument when i asked you a question. All you had to do was answer my questions. But no, you went into claiming i was "Jealous" and talking about a completely different fighter to the one we were discussing. Please educate yourself so as not to make a silly mistake again.

As for Naz... He's a legitimate ATG with a resume to show for it. To claim he fought bums is to show you know nothing about the opponents he beat. He beat real world champs. Real world class fighters and better. His win alone against Bungu is better than Lopez's whole career. Bungu made 14 defences of the IBF SB title with wins over the likes of McKinney and Romero. So get a clue before spouting nonsense. Naz didn't have robberies like Lopez did. Nor did he fight trash with losing records for pretty much his whole career. Naz had 3 unifications and won them all. Lopez had 3, but lost 2 of them. 2 good wins compared to many doesn't make them even close to equal. Only a clown would think so.

[pacphobia]

My top 5 greatest mexican fighters of all time:
1. Chavez
2. Morales
3. Marquez
4. Barrera
5. Canelo

[pugil1st]

Not very humble is he? He should be cheering on his compatriot regardless of how he may feel on the inside. That's a bad look.

[hectari]

In terms of superstar status in mexico, chavez sr was on another level he was like maradona in argentina at his peak beloved by the country

[theface07]

Once he stepped up he struggled. Got gifts too. Reckon I already rate Canelo above Chavez. Chavez is well overrated.

Are you on glue? Canelo is the king of gifts. On top of that, his best opposition has been well past their prime and to go even further, he is a proven juicer. Canelo is one of the best of his generation but he is well overrated and his team is not to be trusted. I wonder how many times the great and powerful Canelo actually tested positive before he was finally exposed? Money has been changing hands. He will always have an asterisk next to his name.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Chavez is overrated as hell. Canelo is a much better boxer. I think JMM and a few others are better boxers also. Beating 80+ cab drivers isn't great. Chavez top wins aren't all that either. His robbery draw to Sweet Pea was disgusting. He clearly lost.

[BodyBagz]

Will him and his son just pls go away already

[ShaneMosleySr]

So if he’s asked if he believes Canelo Alvarez will surpass his accomplishments, he has to say yes or he isn’t humble.

What a crazy way to think.

Not very humble is he? He should be cheering on his compatriot regardless of how he may feel on the inside. That's a bad look.