Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Vows: I'm Going To Continue Boxing, Show My Greatness

[Ganondorf]

God help us.

[Sid-Knee]

The whyte offer was a very low one, plus it had strings attached (2-3 fight deal with matchroom). Regarding the AJ offer, I've never once saw any details about an offer back in 2017 when he was mando..do you have a link? Makes lil sense for a fighter to turn down a career best payday, and fight for 2 titles if it was offered with a full camp of preparation and no strings attached..

In any case, seems like we'll never see eye-to-eye on this, so let's agree to disagree (but deep down know im right lol)

Stop lying. Hearn never made Ortiz sign up for any fights other than the Whyte fight. This was the smear made by weirdo's who wanted to slander Whyte and work to make sure Whyte couldn't get his hands on Wilder's biggest win and knock him out. Haymon and co also needed reasons to further duck AJ and needed what they considered a fight to use to pull this off. Who else could they get that wasn't really a threat to make Wilder look like a real fighter, even though he was no such thing? Exactly.

I know it makes no sense to turn down your biggest payday. Butt that is what Ortiz did. Even Ortiz's team acknowledged they messed up and kept on backtracking. Ortiz instead signed up for the Wilder rematch for a guarantee of 1.5 Mill. So not the 10 Mill promised to not take the AJ fight like they said. It was nothing but more lies. But when is it not?

The Whyte fight was on PPV. It was not Low money. It was a bigger payday than he'd ever got. For him to fight Wilder for a title for only 500,000 but turn down the Whyte fight for more money, is a duck. No two ways about it.

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Actually you're not...

Ortiz and his management team screwed up multiple times from 2015 to 2017. In 2015 while under Golden Boy, he was in a position to fight for the mandatory spot and got the interim title but was ordered to fight two guys in succession. He fought Jennings while having the interim title then was ordered to fight Alexander Ustinov. Instead of doing that, he fought Tony Thompson in 2016. He was allowed to do that as long as he fought Ustinov next. The fight was scheduled twice and Ortiz backed out both times. As a result the interim title he had was stripped.

Around that same time he was out of Golden Boy and then signed with Matchroom. His first fight was against Malik Scott. After that he fought Dave Allen on the Joshua-Molina card. Hearn was setting up Whyte vs Ortiz because Joshua-Klitschko was already signed. Ortiz left and went with Haymon. He was supposed to have a fight in March 2017 but claimed that he had a shoulder injury.

I would like to know what that Whyte offer was and where the stipulations were mentioned...the thing with Ortiz was his situation as the top WBA contender was contingent on who won Joshua-Klitschko. If Klitschko won, then Ortiz could be next. If Joshua won, then the IBF mandatory was next. We saw what the result was. Besides, if Klitschko didn't retire he would have a rematch against Joshua. What would Ortiz have done in that instance? Stay inactive? His best option was have an extension with Matchroom in that instance.



Hopefully what was explained above suffices.

That sounds about right , these guys just don’t like facts .

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The whyte offer was a very low one, plus it had strings attached (2-3 fight deal with matchroom). Regarding the AJ offer, I've never once saw any details about an offer back in 2017 when he was mando..do you have a link? Makes lil sense for a fighter to turn down a career best payday, and fight for 2 titles if it was offered with a full camp of preparation and no strings attached..

In any case, seems like we'll never see eye-to-eye on this, so let's agree to disagree (but deep down know im right lol)

What was the offer ? How could it be a low offer on a headline PPV in The O2 arena , and what was Ortiz career high payday outside of title fights ?

Ortiz was the mandatory in 2017 he didn’t need an offer he chose to leave match room and terminate his spot to fight A.J that’s just a fact so there’s not anything to agree or disagree with . Either you are living in reality or your not .

[Stuntman Mike]

Please come back and save boxing

Our Lord and savior has spoken I believe this time he might have some boxing skills

Fingers crossed

[KingGilgamesh]

Wrong. The first time was when he was mandatory for the WBA title. But AJ had to first defend against his IBF mandatory. Ortiz would have made a huge amount of money, but he never wanted it. He looked at Wilder instead for the WBC title for peanuts because he knew he was garbage. It just turned out that Ortiz was even more garbage than the can man himself.

The second time there were 7 weeks before the fight. But Ortiz had made comment 3 weeks earlier saying he'd fight at a weeks notice as he was in training anyway and in great shape. he was just fronting like always. He never knew Miller was going to pop dirty so AJ would need a new dance partner. But they went straight to them because of what they said weeks earlier, only for them to make all the excuses and contradict themselves repeatedly by turning down the fight again for his biggest payday. His team even claimed 8 Mill was a lowball. Haha. His team claimed he was worth 10 Mill, even though he was a nobody who couldn't sell tickets or generate any money. I mean, his biggest payday was 500,000 for the Wilder fight. Yet here he is deluding himself he was worth 10 Mill. Well, his team came back after they were laughed at for massively overpricing themselves and AJ had now signed on to fight Ruiz, admitting they messed up. You damn right they did. They were exposed for what they were. Just like Wilder has been.

Ortiz and his team turned down the Whyte fight because they didn't want o supposedly fight on that fight date Whyte had in England on PPV. Only to then fight on the very same date in the US against his usual scrub and being exposed yet again.

Any other story is delusion and lies. This is the absolute truth.

Riiiiight...

Somehow, miraculously, turns out Whte dodging his eliminators was actually Ortiz and Breazeale fault

This is why British fighters barely ever progress, when you have a bunch of delusional losers as your fanbase is it really any surprise that your career goes backwards?

[brown_knight06]

He will will best c-level fighters but will never face fury or joshua.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Hope he fights Dinu -Dubois winner.

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Riiiiight...

Somehow, miraculously, turns out Whte dodging his eliminators was actually Ortiz and Breazeale fault

This is why British fighters barely ever progress, when you have a bunch of delusional losers as your fanbase is it really any surprise that your career goes backwards?

Breazeale declined Whyte .

Ortiz declined him to at a chance for a big PPV at the O2 , when Ortiz did that Parker took the fight .

[KingGilgamesh]

Breazeale declined Whyte .

Ortiz declined him to at a chance for a big PPV at the O2 , when Ortiz did that Parker took the fight .

Again with your ****ing lies FFS

https://www.boxingscene.com/dillian-...azeale--139081

Breazeale didn't turn down ****, the very reason why he fought Wilder was because he was automatically earmarked as Wilder's mandatory due to Fury opting not to fight Wilder again.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...e-explanation/

The bolded is ****ing horse**** pulled out of your ass.