Manny Pacquiao is the GOAT.

[VG_Addict]

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

• Only 7-8 division world champion
• Wins over Barrera, Morales, Ledwaba, Thurman, Mosley and De La Hoya
• Fighter of the Decade
• Oldest WW champion in history

I don't see how he ISN'T the GOAT.

[blowblow]

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

• Only 7-8 division world champion
• Wins over Barrera, Morales, Ledwaba, Thurman, Mosley and De La Hoya
• Fighter of the Decade
• Oldest WW champion in history

I don't see how he ISN'T the GOAT.

5 lineal world champion.
4 decades champ

no debate he is the goat of boxing.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ray Robinson has a far better resume, fought and beat so many Hall of Famers. 10 I think, including LaMotta, Armstrong, Gavilan, Zivic, Angott, Fullmer, Basilio, Graziano, Olson, Turpin.

Ray Leonard beat a prime and undefeated 38-0 Benitez, beat a prime 72-1 and undefeated in 8 years Roberto Duran, beat a peak and 32-0 Thomas Hearns and an 11 year undefeated 62-2 Marvin Hagler. Pacquiao does not have a win that compares to any of the four.

What Armstrong did holding three Lineal titles at once from featherweight to welterweight is also essentially unmatchable, it arguably should have been four too as the consensus is he was robbed against Garcia in 1940 at middleweight.

Pac is in the conversation but if you know your history, he clearly isn’t the GOAT. One of the very best of the modern era though.

[hugh grant]

Pac has did things others haven't so he is in any conversation. n And the things he did aren't smoke and mirrors and are of value. I mean being oldest ww champ having started at flyweight is a big deal and like a atom bomb statement.

[The Big Dunn]

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

• Only 7-8 division world champion
• Wins over Barrera, Morales, Ledwaba, Thurman, Mosley and De La Hoya
• Fighter of the Decade
• Oldest WW champion in history

I don't see how he ISN'T the GOAT.

Facts? Are we looking at all of them or just those you listed?

I ask because you left out a significant number of facts that, had you put them, would’ve refuted your own argument.

Here is one fact you left out- the Floyd fight.

Watch that objectively. If you do, you will see why he isn’t.

[Haka]

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

• Only 7-8 division world champion
• Wins over Barrera, Morales, Ledwaba, Thurman, Mosley and De La Hoya
• Fighter of the Decade
• Oldest WW champion in history

I don't see how he ISN'T the GOAT.

Those lower divisions don't mean ****, nobody cares about them.

Also what about the PED accusations ?

[lopetego]

Ray Robinson has a far better resume, fought and beat so many Hall of Famers. 10 I think, including LaMotta, Armstrong, Gavilan, Zivic, Angott, Fullmer, Basilio, Graziano, Olson, Turpin.

Ray Leonard beat a prime and undefeated 38-0 Benitez, beat a prime 72-1 and undefeated in 8 years Roberto Duran, beat a peak and 32-0 Thomas Hearns and an 11 year undefeated 62-2 Marvin Hagler. Pacquiao does not have a win that compares to any of the four.

What Armstrong did holding three Lineal titles at once from featherweight to welterweight is also essentially unmatchable, it arguably should have been four too as the consensus is he was robbed against Garcia in 1940 at middleweight.

Pac is in the conversation but if you know your history, he clearly isn’t the GOAT. One of the very best of the modern era though.

Nah, Robinson, Leonard, etc they were all great, but Pacquiao started as a flyweight, a FLYWEIGHT

Pacquiao not only won belts and beat plenty of champs and big names, he did it while climbing up in weight, over and over again. Beating top guys your own size is great and all, but beating top guys who are also naturally much bigger, that's the kind of stuff only the ATG can pull

Can you imagine Gallo Estrada or Chocolatito ever becoming champs and a force to reckon with a LMW, beating the likes of Charlo, even winning a belt a MW?

seems unthinkable, right?

Well, Pacquiao did pretty much that. The unthinkable. Something that was never done before, and even now seems impossible for ANY fighter who starts as low in weight as Pacman, no matter how talented they are

GOATquiao

[QueensburyRules]

Those lower divisions don't mean ****, nobody cares about them.

Also what about the PED accusations ?

- - Y U PEEing PED?

[Get em up]

Jake Paul is the GOAT.... 5-0 4 KO's and all on PPPV against all odds and the highest caliber opponents known to exist. Any other name being mentioned here is Ludicrous

[Nash out]

Pac is up there, but he is no Jeff Horn. Horn lost his motivation after his Mafia connections made him throw the fight against Crawford. We all know deep in our hearts that Jeff "the Hornet" Horn is the greatest to ever lace them up. Nash out.