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Why is Dillian Whyte so obsessed with Wilder? Why doesn’t he call out a world champion instead?

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  • #71
    Originally posted by Mmann2e View Post

    Well, we will see what Uncle Al tells him to do; the hype for him and Martin died and I assume the hype for him vs Ruiz will collapse as well. I don't see him or Whyte as ppv mover although if Whyte had a good showing vs Ruiz I'd say Whyte could make money in the future fighting in the US, win or lose against Ruiz and he'd never need Wilder again in fact would probably have Wilder begging for a fight to retire on.
    I personally don’t think he needs Wilder now. Wilder is not a ticket seller by himself. He has done poorly in all his fights expect the two fights with Fury, and we know that was due to Fury.

    Because when you fight a British fighter then the interest from across the pond adds a few pounds to your pot. This is why him ducking Whyte a few years back to fight people Ortiz for lower purse is still a shock to me.

    I really do hope Whyte freeze him out, and trust me Wilder and Al Haymon would NOT want the WBC to mandate Whyte and Wilder to fight for the interim/mandatory spot. Because one Wilder and his adviser wouldn’t win a purse bid, and two they don’t want the risk of fighting Whyte the bum.

    They cherrypicked Fury thinking he was inactive, coming back from Alchoholism and drug and was featherfisted. They took less money to even do it, not knowing that Fury is a better fighter than Joshua.

    Now we got a Wilder who at 35 might retire with the rumours circulating online, Finkel had to come out a day ago to deny it. They lost that man 120 million dollars, and am sooo glad it happened to him and his dumb uneducated fans.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

      There should't even be an interim champ. They gave that out for Whyte/Rivas likely because Wilder/Fury were tied up for two fights and Whyte wouldn't shut up about how the WBC had been screwing him over. Silver is/was/should be just a secondary title, different from interim which is supposed to only be used if the champion is injured and inactive with the promise that the interim champ fights the current champ once he recovers and returns. None of these bodies even remember their own rules anymore though, which is why we are seeing WBA Super Champs facing mandatories, or Super and Regular champs never fighting. It's just about the damn fees.
      Whyte couldn’t shut up about it because he was ducked by Wilder. The only way he would get his shot would be to speak up.

      He paid the sanctioning fees, got screwed around by the WBC, got jumped for a shot by Breazeale. so yeah as a boxing fan you should be critical of the WBC, but you follow the WBC rhetorics isn’t it?

      (Wait let’s bring up Ortiz again to try and deflect)

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post

        Whyte couldn’t shut up about it because he was ducked by Wilder. The only way he would get his shot would be to speak up.

        He paid the sanctioning fees, got screwed around by the WBC, got jumped for a shot by Breazeale. so yeah as a boxing fan you should be critical of the WBC, but you follow the WBC rhetorics isn’t it?

        (Wait let’s bring up Ortiz again to try and deflect)
        So he didn't turn down final eliminators then? Breazeale didn't jump the shot, he fought the final eliminator.

        Whyte couldn't shut up about Joshua ducking him too, until he got a contract. Whyte couldn't shut up about calling out Ortiz until Ortiz said he would fight him. Whyte couldn't shut up about not getting chances, until he was offered an IBF final eliminator that he turned down. Whyte is the most ducked fighter in the sport, Probably why the average age of his last seven fights is thirty eight. But let me guess, now that Whyte finally beat Povetkin, he's #1 contender? is that what we are going with now? Doesn't matter if it's true. Just like how Whyte offered Ruiz $5 million to fight him....was also proven to not be true, but who cares? Whyte is going to continue to call out Wilder, then go and fight Trevor Bryan because Wach and Povetkin x2 weren't easy enough for him. Maybe he can get in on the Takam sweepstakes.

        Also, Parker has called him out a few times. Why doesn't Whyte comment on that? Instead he says "I already beat him, so theres no point." well, he won by a BS Ref mistake, so I'd say that's a reason to rematch Parker....but again, risky. Talk ****, Call out names, fight old men.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

          So he didn't turn down final eliminators then? Breazeale didn't jump the shot, he fought the final eliminator.

          Whyte couldn't shut up about Joshua ducking him too, until he got a contract. Whyte couldn't shut up about calling out Ortiz until Ortiz said he would fight him. Whyte couldn't shut up about not getting chances, until he was offered an IBF final eliminator that he turned down. Whyte is the most ducked fighter in the sport, Probably why the average age of his last seven fights is thirty eight. But let me guess, now that Whyte finally beat Povetkin, he's #1 contender? is that what we are going with now? Doesn't matter if it's true. Just like how Whyte offered Ruiz $5 million to fight him....was also proven to not be true, but who cares? Whyte is going to continue to call out Wilder, then go and fight Trevor Bryan because Wach and Povetkin x2 weren't easy enough for him. Maybe he can get in on the Takam sweepstakes.

          Also, Parker has called him out a few times. Why doesn't Whyte comment on that? Instead he says "I already beat him, so theres no point." well, he won by a BS Ref mistake, so I'd say that's a reason to rematch Parker....but again, risky. Talk ****, Call out names, fight old men.
          Again trying to deflect... He turned down Pulev in Bulgaria as an eliminator to fight Parker on PPV in the UK. He turned down a AJ rematch due to all the reasons he stated previously... Am saying this because you guys don’t have any comebacks apart from deflecting from the WBC.

          Again show me the offers that he turned down from Team Ortiz for the WBC secondary mandatory. So that you and the others who follows the PBC/WBC rhetorics can get it through your heads.... There is a difference between a second mandatory and a straight up mandatory. He was number 1, they jumped him and made the number 3 guy the mandatory, and asked Whyte to fight Ortiz (Who just lost to Wilder) for a second mandatory shot.

          He, as with any educated fellow would do, complained about how should the number 3 guy jumped the queue to a mandatory shot when he the number 1 guy is right in front waiting. This is the bit where youse take and run with “He doesn’t want to fight Ortiz” when the man was more questioning how the number 3 guy jumped over him. Hence why there was never a concrete negotiation between Ortiz and Whyte. Even though Whyte claimed they sent a 2m offer to Ortiz.... Which I don’t even pay attention to, because there has never been any serious negotiation between them.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

            If you look at TBRB or BoxRec then its Wilder at #3, Whyte at #4.

            Org rankings, they are only both in the WBC rankings where Whyte is Interim Champ, Wilder is #1 so Whyte is higher.
            Yes, Why te is above wilder. And so he should be.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Yes, Why te is above wilder. And so he should be.
              Why is Wilder rank he has done nothing in a year and WBC president has suggested he retire.

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              • #77
                I've been critical of Whyte and don't rate him anywhere near what some do but the titles are held up at the minute and for all his talk of wanting an easy fight, I can respect it if he's genuinely going after Wilder. That's another risk and potential KO loss but if he wins, he has to get a shot at the titles.

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                • #78
                  The more obvious question is why are you so obsessed with preventing this fight from happening
                  as if there are better, more mouth-watering fights out there in the punching bag division.
                  I don't even care about Whyte, but who showed more interest in fighting Wilder other than Dillian?
                  Not Parker, not Chisora, not Ruiz, not Kownacki, Usyk, Helenius. Nobody.
                  We've already seen Wilder/Fury twice. What more is there to see other than who is more mentally fit
                  or physically more conditioned in the third fight? That's the way I always see rematches.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                    So he didn't turn down final eliminators then? Breazeale didn't jump the shot, he fought the final eliminator.

                    Whyte couldn't shut up about Joshua ducking him too, until he got a contract. Whyte couldn't shut up about calling out Ortiz until Ortiz said he would fight him. Whyte couldn't shut up about not getting chances, until he was offered an IBF final eliminator that he turned down. Whyte is the most ducked fighter in the sport, Probably why the average age of his last seven fights is thirty eight. But let me guess, now that Whyte finally beat Povetkin, he's #1 contender? is that what we are going with now? Doesn't matter if it's true. Just like how Whyte offered Ruiz $5 million to fight him....was also proven to not be true, but who cares? Whyte is going to continue to call out Wilder, then go and fight Trevor Bryan because Wach and Povetkin x2 weren't easy enough for him. Maybe he can get in on the Takam sweepstakes.whye

                    Also, Parker has called him out a few times. Why doesn't Whyte comment on that? Instead he says "I already beat him, so theres no point." well, he won by a BS Ref mistake, so I'd say that's a reason to rematch Parker....but again, risky. Talk ****, Call out names, fight old men.
                    whyte offered ortiz a fight and ortiz said im not ready...then ortiz fought a random bum on the same exact date lol. look at whytes resume. look at ortiz's. one guy is full of hot air. the other guy has fought a bunch of good fighters. that doesnt make whyte perfect or right all the time but hes clearly the one trying to fight guys and ortiz is not. ortiz is a talker.

                    whyte made 3 times more to fight parker in a ppv. why do you want him to be ****** and take less money for a fight in someone elses hometown?

                    breazeale did in fact jump whyte. whyte was the highest ranked available fighter to wilder and they didnt even consult him for a fight against breazele or anyone else to determine the mandatory, instead breazele chose to fight eric molina(another pbc fighter) and the wbc made that an eliminator even though whyte was willing to fight breazele for the spot. clearly corrupt politics going on there to get wilder in house fights. same reason they never gave whyte the shot at wilder. they wanted to maintain control

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                    • #80
                      wilder wouldnt fight joshua for 100 million nor whyte. both guys would be the best fighters he has ever fought except for a tyson fury who he admitted he was cherry picking cause he was fat and rusty. this is like trump stealing his supporters money with auto donations and them being like oh mah gawd a conman!

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