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Why is Dillian Whyte so obsessed with Wilder? Why doesn’t he call out a world champion instead?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
    The only WBC Silver Champ who did eventually become a mandatory was Povetkin, and he still had to fight an eliminator.
    Incorrect. Whyte became mandatory as part of the Rivas deal. He was the WBC Interim/Silver and Mandatory holder before he fought Wach and Povetkin.

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    • #62
      Honestly, Dillian Whyte have been calling Wilder out when he had the belt. He's calling him out publicly as far as I know, but I doubt he would beat Wilder in a fight.

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      • #63
        Is wilder rated higher than.Whythe in rankings? If he is then that's bad. Whyte is more proven and challenging wilder is good

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        • #64
          Always makes me laugh when everybody just chooses to believe Ortiz’s side of the story, one good win in 5 years, vast majority of the good rumoured fights fall through.

          His proposed opponents fight someone decent while he fights another member of the bum of the month club and it’s somehow NEVER his fault.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

            Incorrect. Whyte became mandatory as part of the Rivas deal. He was the WBC Interim/Silver and Mandatory holder before he fought Wach and Povetkin.
            What I was saying is that the Silver did not make him the mandatory, he hadn't become official mandatory until he beat Rivas. They have been claiming he has been mandatory since he won the Silver off of helenius
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            • #66
              Whyte is a guard dog of AJ and eddie hearn. Hearn has used him to keep wilder off AJ in the past, and he is now there as a wedge so that wilder doesn't fight fury. Hearn wants to make AJ/fury.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                What I was saying is that the Silver did not make him the mandatory, he hadn't become official mandatory until he beat Rivas. They have been claiming he has been mandatory since he won the Silver off of helenius
                Ok.
                I'm not sure that there is any real difference between being an interim and a mandatory, other than the semantics of it, anymore...
                • WBC Franchise Champion has special status when it comes to mandatories/defences.
                • WBC Interim Champion by definition is a champion in waiting - why Wilder couldn't fight the interim is conjecture but there were not special circumstances why he couldn't fight Whyte over the designated mandatory.
                • WBC Silver Champion - as above but they don't get the Full if it is vacated.
                • Champion Emeritus - any retired champ can come back, at any time, and get an immediate shot at the current holder
                • WBC International - essentially, an opportunity to hand out a belt and supposedly means they can skip Silver/Interim and fight for the Full title (??????)
                • WBC Silver International - the interim International Champion!?
                • I bet the Eternal Champion has some rights to the title too!

                They have ruined what it means to be an interim or a mandatory with all this BS.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Lance98 View Post
                  Whyte is a guard dog of AJ and eddie hearn. Hearn has used him to keep wilder off AJ in the past, and he is now there as a wedge so that wilder doesn't fight fury. Hearn wants to make AJ/fury.
                  This is just pure bitterness.
                  There is well known, circulated proof that Finkel protected Wilder from Klitschko and more recently; Joshua. Have you been living under a rock?

                  Whyte has only recently started chasing Wilder again because he beat Pov. Whyte has been mando and interim - what good reason did Wilder have for not fighting him? Whyte would have been the best name on his resume, other than Fury.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Is wilder rated higher than.Whythe in rankings? If he is then that's bad. Whyte is more proven and challenging wilder is good
                    If you look at TBRB or BoxRec then its Wilder at #3, Whyte at #4.

                    Org rankings, they are only both in the WBC rankings where Whyte is Interim Champ, Wilder is #1 so Whyte is higher.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

                      Ok.
                      I'm not sure that there is any real difference between being an interim and a mandatory, other than the semantics of it, anymore...
                      • WBC Franchise Champion has special status when it comes to mandatories/defences.
                      • WBC Interim Champion by definition is a champion in waiting - why Wilder couldn't fight the interim is conjecture but there were not special circumstances why he couldn't fight Whyte over the designated mandatory.
                      • WBC Silver Champion - as above but they don't get the Full if it is vacated.
                      • Champion Emeritus - any retired champ can come back, at any time, and get an immediate shot at the current holder
                      • WBC International - essentially, an opportunity to hand out a belt and supposedly means they can skip Silver/Interim and fight for the Full title (??????)
                      • WBC Silver International - the interim International Champion!?
                      • I bet the Eternal Champion has some rights to the title too!

                      They have ruined what it means to be an interim or a mandatory with all this BS.
                      There should't even be an interim champ. They gave that out for Whyte/Rivas likely because Wilder/Fury were tied up for two fights and Whyte wouldn't shut up about how the WBC had been screwing him over. Silver is/was/should be just a secondary title, different from interim which is supposed to only be used if the champion is injured and inactive with the promise that the interim champ fights the current champ once he recovers and returns. None of these bodies even remember their own rules anymore though, which is why we are seeing WBA Super Champs facing mandatories, or Super and Regular champs never fighting. It's just about the damn fees.
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