Francis Ngannou vs prime Mike Tyson in a Street Fight?

[KingGilgamesh]

The Lewis fight was just weird, it wasnt really anything to do with wrestling etc because they both have the same limitations but Ngannou is the heavier hitter and more athletic. He was just oddly gun shy that night in the face of another big puncher. Honestly it was arguably a shady situation, did not look right at all. I think he wins the rematch in typical highlight reel fashion though.

As for the Jones fight. I cant see it tbh. The Jones of the Reyes and Santos fights does not look like the Jones we saw handle DC. Maybe he'll be reinvigorated by the HW move and have a second wind, but if Frank catches him like Reyes and Santos did? hes going out. Hes never faced anyone remotely as hard hitting or strong as Ngannou is.

I expect him to have that belt for a while.

He wasn't oddly gunshy. This is the problem with MMA, the UFC spends so much time elevating fighters who barely have a 3 fight win streak that people end up completely ignoring fights on a resume. Ngannou feared Lewis' power. No fighter just stands there if they know they can get you out there with minimal effort.

Boxing has the problem of putting too much on losses but, at the same time, UFC puts way too much on 1 or 2 wins. It's amusing to me the way people see to be completely discounting Lewis genuine KO threat. Probably down to how he looks.

[TMLT87]

He wasn't oddly gunshy. This is the problem with MMA, the UFC spends so much time elevating fighters who barely have a 3 fight win streak that people end up completely ignoring fights on a resume. Ngannou feared Lewis' power. No fighter just stands there if they know they can get you out there with minimal effort.

So hes perfectly happy to go straight at Rozenstruik, Reem, JDS and Stipe but he all of a sudden barely throws a single punch vs Lewis, a guy who has been folded by the aformentioned JDS, an old Mark Hunt and even Meathead?

Nah, he was indeed oddly gunshy, it was one of the few truly suspect looking fights in UFC history. Lewis will get brutally knocked out in the first round in the rematch.

[Dakuwaqa]

Nope.

That **** comes back to bite you in MMA. ALWAYS. Without fail.

An incomplete fighter with poor wrestling and poor ground game is a loss waiting to happen. This already happened with Ngannou back to back with Stipe and Lewis. Whilst I love the guys story and think he's a genuine good dude, I can honestly see the guy getting completely outclassed by Jon Jones. His TDD against Stipe was excellent but TDD isn't exactly the hardest thing to learn in wrestling. Agressive wrestling is where it really gets tricky and Ngannou is still lacking on that front. Its just that his KO power is so immense.

These Mike Tyson what if's are always funny. Because Mike Tyson wasn't even the best boxer in his era. He lost in his "prime" and out of it. I think its because people get too enamoured with KO artists. When, in reality, KO artists tend to get undone by skilled opponents all the time.

You said it yourself, TDD isn’t the hardest thing to learn. Ngannou doesn’t need to learn aggressive wrestling he wants to defend and keep things standing up.

[YoungManRumble]

Who cares, nothing personal but this is a low quality thread.

Anthony Joshua is bigger than Ngannou in Nigeria.

This is a traditional sentax thread. All he posts about is MMA and hypothetical situations involving MMA. He needs to find another forum...

[KingGilgamesh]

So hes perfectly happy to go straight at Rozenstruik, Reem, JDS and Stipe but he all of a sudden barely throws a single punch vs Lewis, a guy who has been folded by the aformentioned JDS, an old Mark Hunt and even Meathead?

Nah, he was indeed oddly gunshy, it was one of the few truly suspect looking fights in UFC history. Lewis will get brutally knocked out in the first round in the rematch.

Yep and not one of those fighters have Lewis' one shot KO power. LOL why are you equating a chin with your ability to KO someone. Plenty of glass jawed heavy hitters. And, if anything, he was hardly gunning for Stipe in the second fight. The slow methodical approach was what we saw. Francis is aggressive, but he knows when not to march into a firefight.

[KingGilgamesh]

You said it yourself, TDD isn’t the hardest thing to learn. Ngannou doesn’t need to learn aggressive wrestling he wants to defend and keep things standing up.

Not exactly. I'm yet to see what happens when he gets mauled. This is all entirely hypothetical though.

[abracada]

This is a traditional sentax thread. All he posts about is MMA and hypothetical situations involving MMA. He needs to find another forum...

Freedom of speech

[Dakuwaqa]

Not exactly. I'm yet to see what happens when he gets mauled. This is all entirely hypothetical though.

What HW out there do you think could maul him? Ngannou has crazy natural strength is 260lb of muscles and seems to have a much better TDD.

Other than Jones who do you think would give him trouble?

[KingGilgamesh]

What HW out there do you think could maul him? Ngannou has crazy natural strength is 260lb of muscles and seems to have a much better TDD.

Other than Jones who do you think would give him trouble?

Jones alone for now.

But muscles don't equate to adequate wrestling. LOL I've learnt that myself the hard way. Ngannou has suspect cardio as well. As said, how many KO artists in either boxing or MMA tend to last that long. Both are martial arts, if KO power mattered so much then the current top end of the division wouldn't look the way it does. Its like fight fans never learn and the same lessons keep being taught.

[Boxing>MMA]

A bare knuckle punch from Tyson on the streets? Takes about 10 seconds for him to connect on someone as unskilled as ngannou. and thats all it takes. fight over. Ngannou on the sidewalk Tyson eating his remains. seriously? you wanna take mike tyson down lmao. get close to his teeth? doubt it. kick him? sure do so as long as he has not closed the distance which will happen inside a second. Tyson takes this. He is one of the sicked psychos ever when things get heated.