Francis Ngannou vs prime Mike Tyson in a Street Fight?

[abracada]

No holds barred street fight, I see Tyson biting, elbows, headbutting, etc etc he will win as he is the dirtier fighter with zero compassion and no soul

[abracada]

A lot of people wont want to accept it, but the much bigger guy with a decades worth of experience in grappling and kicking in addition to punching obviously.

(in before someone saying Tyson would counter that by biting and eye gouging, which apparently Ngannou couldnt do himself)

Reckon a prime Tyson was more ruthless and wanting to kill, someone without a care ie he wouldn’t care biting his nose, ear etc Tyson wins, he is the dirtier fighter

[abracada]

Ngannou wins.

Only if he spikes Tyson’s drink, Tyson would absolutely kill him

[abracada]

I haven't seen Ngannou try to take anyone down, and he also doesn't use kicks much. I'll take Tyson due to good head movement, proper punch technique, and faster hands.

Plus Tyson is ruthless and fights dirty for fun

[TMLT87]

Ngannou beats an old washed up Miocic and suddenly he's the baddest heavyweight who ever lived? Please.

Hes not (yet), but he wouldnt need to be the baddest HW ever to beat a 5'10 220lb pure boxer, even one at prime Tysons level, most high level MMA HWs would do it 9 times out of 10, the other one time being when the punchers chance works out for him.

[KingGilgamesh]

Thats because hes playing to his strengths, he still has those things in his skillset if he ever happens to encounter someone he cant brutally KO in seconds.

Nope.

That **** comes back to bite you in MMA. ALWAYS. Without fail.

An incomplete fighter with poor wrestling and poor ground game is a loss waiting to happen. This already happened with Ngannou back to back with Stipe and Lewis. Whilst I love the guys story and think he's a genuine good dude, I can honestly see the guy getting completely outclassed by Jon Jones. His TDD against Stipe was excellent but TDD isn't exactly the hardest thing to learn in wrestling. Agressive wrestling is where it really gets tricky and Ngannou is still lacking on that front. Its just that his KO power is so immense.

These Mike Tyson what if's are always funny. Because Mike Tyson wasn't even the best boxer in his era. He lost in his "prime" and out of it. I think its because people get too enamoured with KO artists. When, in reality, KO artists tend to get undone by skilled opponents all the time.

[Marchegiano]

Nope.

That **** comes back to bite you in MMA. ALWAYS. Without fail.

An incomplete fighter with poor wrestling and poor ground game is a loss waiting to happen. This already happened with Ngannou back to back with Stipe and Lewis. Whilst I love the guys story and think he's a genuine good dude, I can honestly see the guy getting completely outclassed by Jon Jones. His TDD against Stipe was excellent but TDD isn't exactly the hardest thing to learn in wrestling. Agressive wrestling is where it really gets tricky and Ngannou is still lacking on that front. Its just that his KO power is so immense.

These Mike Tyson what if's are always funny. Because Mike Tyson wasn't even the best boxer in his era. He lost in his "prime" and out of it. I think its because people get too enamoured with KO artists. When, in reality, KO artists tend to get undone by skilled opponents all the time.

TBF to Mike, I don't think 90s boxers need to be Mike Tyson good to beat up MMA's KO artists. ****ing Grant or some **** would wreck this guy.

<--- members when Rhonda could "punch"

<---- members when McGregor could "punch"

Oh, MMA selling yet another "puncher" KO Artist. I'll be skeptical.


The one thing Francis has that makes me interested in seeing if this dude's legit is his trainer is far more legitimate than Rousey's or Conor's. He's being taught how to punch by a man who actually boxed and kickboxed rather than a mug with some TMA cred he bought in the 80s, rolling cred, and that's it.

[TMLT87]

Nope.

That **** comes back to bite you in MMA. ALWAYS. Without fail.

An incomplete fighter with poor wrestling and poor ground game is a loss waiting to happen. This already happened with Ngannou back to back with Stipe and Lewis. Whilst I love the guys story and think he's a genuine good dude, I can honestly see the guy getting completely outclassed by Jon Jones. His TDD against Stipe was excellent but TDD isn't exactly the hardest thing to learn in wrestling. Agressive wrestling is where it really gets tricky and Ngannou is still lacking on that front. Its just that his KO power is so immense.

The Lewis fight was just weird, it wasnt really anything to do with wrestling etc because they both have the same limitations but Ngannou is the heavier hitter and more athletic. He was just oddly gun shy that night in the face of another big puncher. Honestly it was arguably a shady situation, did not look right at all. I think he wins the rematch in typical highlight reel fashion though.

As for the Jones fight. I cant see it tbh. The Jones of the Reyes and Santos fights does not look like the Jones we saw handle DC. Maybe he'll be reinvigorated by the HW move and have a second wind, but if Frank catches him like Reyes and Santos did? hes going out. Hes never faced anyone remotely as hard hitting or strong as Ngannou is.

I expect him to have that belt for a while.

[soul_survivor]

Tyson, Nagnnou is quite slow.

[KingGilgamesh]

TBF to Mike, I don't think 90s boxers need to be Mike Tyson good to beat up MMA's KO artists. ****ing Grant or some **** would wreck this guy.

<--- members when Rhonda could "punch"

<---- members when McGregor could "punch"

Oh, MMA selling yet another "puncher" KO Artist. I'll be skeptical.


The one thing Francis has that makes me interested in seeing if this dude's legit is his trainer is far more legitimate than Rousey's or Conor's. He's being taught how to punch by a man who actually boxed and kickboxed rather than a mug with some TMA cred he bought in the 80s, rolling cred, and that's it.

Boom. On the money. Every word.

MMA strikers tend to be ****ing awful and that's coming from an MMA fighter. One thing of note is that I kinda feel MMA/UFC will showcase superb wrestlers, BJJ artists and judoka's, it will always lack premier strikers because the pay is so comparatively poor.

And it kinda speaks to the infancy of the sport that some of the absolutely shocking displays of pretty much everything you're taught not to do in the boxing ring are displayed constantly by top level MMA fighters.

Ngannou's striking is noticeably better though. Really enjoyed seeing his effective use of the jab and body work. Question is that could all end up being for nought if a solid wrestler figures him out.