Bernard Hopkins is the greatest example of extremely hard work pays off in the end.

[HitmanTommy]

Hopkins is not the greatest example of extremely hard work paying off. Did he work extremely hard? Yes, but he had great physical tools to help him out. There are plenty of boxers who weren't physically gifted and had to put in work to achieve success.

Give a better example than Hopkins.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Fouls and PEDs paid off. "Veteran tactics" doe

[HitmanTommy]

Hopkins is not the greatest example of extremely hard work paying off. Did he work extremely hard? Yes, but he had great physical tools to help him out. There are plenty of boxers who weren't physically gifted and had to put in work to achieve success.

Looking back on this thread, you do have a point.

[Robbie Barrett]

To make it to that level you've got to be physically gifted to start with then skills he learned. You're downplaying him.