Bernard Hopkins is the greatest example of extremely hard work pays off in the end.

[HitmanTommy]

No one in a billion superhuman abilities like Mike Tyson
No catlike reflexes and speed never before seen like Roy Jones Jr
No freak anomaly like Manny Pacquiao

The vast majority of the time, boxers who make it to the very elite and stay there have some form of super rare athletic gift that overshadows every other boxer at the bottom.

But not Bernard Hopkins. He made it to the elite stage and remained there through brutal training and a very strict diet.

Just goes to show you, that if you don't even have the gifts of the fighters listed above, you can still be elite if you put your mind to it.

[PRINCEKOOL]

He was far from normal athletically, but he was not abnormal like some of the fighters you have mentioned. Canelo Alvarez has no abnormal athletic abilities, you seen what happened he got inside the ring with Mayweather 'He had no answer for Mayweather's physical speed, and also Mayweather processing speed of information'. Alvarez was also in a similar situation with Amir Khan 'If Khan had better durability he would of beaten Alvarez, as Alvarez had zero answers for Khan's speed'.

I have always compared Bernard Hopkins to Batman. No real superpowers, but a extremely high combat mind 'The professor'. A master in strategy and psychological warfare.

And yes his lifestyle was regime, regime because that is who he was.

I used to like his lectures he would give before his fights, one of the best ever round tables with him I saw as just before the Chad Dawson rematch 'In full length it is no longer on you tube'.

But this is a good one.

[TonyGe]

He was far from normal athletically, but he was not abnormal like some of the fighters you have mentioned. Canelo Alvarez has no abnormal athletic abilities, you seen what happened he got inside the ring with Mayweather 'He had no answer for Mayweather's physical speed, and also Mayweather processing speed of information'. Alvarez was also in a similar situation with Amir Khan 'If Khan had better durability he would of beaten Alvarez, as Alvarez had zero answers for Khan's speed'.

I have always compared Bernard Hopkins to Batman. No real superpowers, but a extremely high combat mind 'The professor'. A master in strategy and psychological warfare.

And yes his lifestyle was regime, regime because that is who he was.

I used to like his lectures he would give before his fights, one of the best ever round tables with him I saw as just before the Chad Dawson rematch 'In full length it is no longer on you tube'.

But this is a good one.

I don't recall any interview of Hopkins where he answered a question with a simple yes or no.. He loves to talk. LOL....

[Thuglife Nelo]

He was far from normal athletically, but he was not abnormal like some of the fighters you have mentioned. Canelo Alvarez has no abnormal athletic abilities, you seen what happened he got inside the ring with Mayweather 'He had no answer for Mayweather's physical speed, and also Mayweather processing speed of information'. Alvarez was also in a similar situation with Amir Khan 'If Khan had better durability he would of beaten Alvarez, as Alvarez had zero answers for Khan's speed'.

''athleticism'' is measured by how optimal you can be. Canelo is operating way better than his drain days. Again, put any Olympic level athlete the day before his event drain 15lbs of water. It makes no sense, but that's the nature of boxing. Any Olympic sprinter or race based athlete would be hindered the following day of the event if they just randomly dropped 15lbs of water. Their immune system would be compromised etc and have a full day to recover. KNOW that boxers during fight week have to calibrate and maintain their weight. That's the grueling nature of combat sports if the circumstance is to make weight.

Mayweather could'nt even cut 2lbs of water for the originally agreed Marquez contract of 144 and changed it last minute to 146lbs. How does a ''seasoned'' ATG Welterweight not be able to cut 2-3lbs of water?!?! lol. that's unheard of...

So if Mayweather couldn't cut 2lbs of water how do you think Canelo felt trying to make 152?

As far as Khan. Khan didn't do anything and Canelo made him miss numerous times even during the burst of offensive combos. Canelo flicked every single Khan jab to the body like he was toying him. The truth is Canelo was advised to go easy on him the same GGG had to hold it against Brook. When you frustrate the acting performance the bigger guy will eventually just end it.... Canelo is levels above Khan.

[PRINCEKOOL]

''athleticism'' is measured by how optimal you can be. Canelo is operating way better than his drain days. Again, put any Olympic level athlete the day before his event drain 15lbs of water. It makes no sense, but that's the nature of boxing. Any Olympic sprinter or race based athlete would be hindered the following day of the event if they just randomly dropped 15lbs of water. Their immune system would be compromised etc and have a full day to recover. KNOW that boxers during fight week have to calibrate and maintain their weight. That's the grueling nature of combat sports if the circumstance is to make weight.

Mayweather could'nt even cut 2lbs of water for the originally agreed Marquez contract of 144 and changed it last minute to 146lbs. How does a ''seasoned'' ATG Welterweight not be able to cut 2-3lbs of water?!?! lol. that's unheard of...

So if Mayweather couldn't cut 2lbs of water how do you think Canelo felt trying to make 152?

As far as Khan. Khan didn't do anything and Canelo made him miss numerous times even during the burst of offensive combos. Canelo flicked every single Khan jab to the body like he was toying him. The truth is Canelo was advised to go easy on him the same GGG had to hold it against Brook. When you frustrate the acting performance the bigger guy will eventually just end it.... Canelo is levels above Khan.

You are a supporter of Alvarez, I get it 'But he is no genetic marvel in terms of athletic ability'.

Mayweather could not only move faster than Alvarez, he could think faster 'His processing speed and decision making was faster'.

Where as? Amir Khan could move faster than Alvarez, but his processing speed and decision making was not as optimal. And that is why Alvarez won that fight, by exploiting this area of Amir Khan's game 'But if Khan had the durability of Antonio Margarito, Alvarez would of been beaten'.

I don't see anything abnormal about him, but of course he is a real neat and superior boxer. Movement is not great, stamina is in no way elite 'In fact i am going to state it right now? If Alvarez is beaten in the future, it will be by a straight forward simple game plan to exploit his stamina and one paced style'.

Mayweather has fought in chaotic fights, were he could not really pick and chose where to place his efforts. He has fought in fights that were like interval sprint sessions, and he came through it.

Nobody has done that to Alvarez, because the fighters he is facing yes are bigger 'But are they really great fighters?'.

Canelo Alvarez does not beat Joe Calzaghe, and I don't even think he beats Carl Froch. These fighters would of taken Alvarez into realm of complete physiological chaos, forget about you fancy shoulder roll 'A realm of complete violence, accompanied by lactic acid, bouts of extreme oxygen dept'. And while he is in this realm, Carl Froch is ****ing his gloves together, and he still coming 'Joe Calzaghe is still coming, with supreme endurance'.

To beat real great fighters, you have to solve them. They are like a physics equation's or theories that need to be solved and figured out. I don't really quite think Alvarez has reached that level yet 'Only once I have seen him put in a situation of compete chaos, where his opponent is not just going to follow his lead? Only then will Alvarez of reached a level of supremacy in boxing that guys like Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones Junior had reached'.

[HitmanTommy]

You are a supporter of Alvarez, I get it 'But he is no genetic marvel in terms of athletic ability'.

Mayweather could not only move faster than Alvarez, he could think faster 'His processing speed and decision making was faster'.

Where as? Amir Khan could move faster than Alvarez, but his processing speed and decision making was not as optimal. And that is why Alvarez won that fight, by exploiting this area of Amir Khan's game 'But if Khan had the durability of Antonio Margarito, Alvarez would of been beaten'.

I don't see anything abnormal about him, but of course he is a real neat and superior boxer. Movement is not great, stamina is in no way elite 'In fact i am going to state it right now? If Alvarez is beaten in the future, it will be by a straight forward simple game plan to exploit his stamina and one paced style'.

Mayweather has fought in chaotic fights, were he could not really pick and chose where to place his efforts. He has fought in fights that were like interval sprint sessions, and he came through it.

Nobody has done that to Alvarez, because the fighters he is facing yes are bigger 'But are they really great fighters?'.

Canelo Alvarez does not beat Joe Calzaghe, and I don't even think he beats Carl Froch. These fighters would of taken Alvarez into realm of complete physiological chaos, forget about you fancy shoulder roll 'A realm of complete violence, accompanied by lactic acid, bouts of extreme oxygen dept'. And while he is in this realm, Carl Froch is ****ing his gloves together, and he still coming 'Joe Calzaghe is still coming, with supreme endurance'.

To beat real great fighters, you have to solve them. They are also like a physics equation's or theories that needs to be solved and figured out. I don't really quite think Alvarez has reached that level yet 'Only once I have seen him put in a situation of compete chaos, where his opponent is not just going to follow his lead? Only then will Alvarez of reached a level of supremacy in boxing that guys like Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones Junior had reached'.

Please don't respond to that crackhead. He makes crackhead responses and is always on canelo's **** like a crackhead.

I have him blocked and don't see any of his posts because this new website layout completely makes ignored members posts invisible.

I haven't see a post from that crackhead in a long time. Only reason I see it now is because you quoted that crackhead.

[DaNeutral.]

His super power was to have a body that refused to be shot until he was in his 50's although he still had to put all the efforts in to keep it that way. But he was an extremely smart, adaptive and disciplined fighter.

I hated how much he complained to referee's but its smart, it can put a slight sway into the mind of the ref, all his dirty tricks added up. The man squeezed every ounce of advantage out of every single situation he was in to give him as best a chance as possible.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You are a supporter of Alvarez, I get it 'But he is no genetic marvel in terms of athletic ability'.

Mayweather could not only move faster than Alvarez, he could think faster 'His processing speed and decision making was faster'.

Where as? Amir Khan could move faster than Alvarez, but his processing speed and decision making was not as optimal. And that is why Alvarez won that fight, by exploiting this area of Amir Khan's game 'But if Khan had the durability of Antonio Margarito, Alvarez would of been beaten'.

I don't see anything abnormal about him, but of course he is a real neat and superior boxer. Movement is not great, stamina is in no way elite 'In fact i am going to state it right now? If Alvarez is beaten in the future, it will be by a straight forward simple game plan to exploit his stamina and one paced style'.

Mayweather has fought in chaotic fights, were he could not really pick and chose where to place his efforts. He has fought in fights that were like interval sprint sessions, and he came through it.

Nobody has done that to Alvarez, because the fighters he is facing yes are bigger 'But are they really great fighters?'.

Canelo Alvarez does not beat Joe Calzaghe, and I don't even think he beats Carl Froch. These fighters would of taken Alvarez into realm of complete physiological chaos, forget about you fancy shoulder roll 'A realm of complete violence, accompanied by lactic acid, bouts of extreme oxygen dept'. And while he is in this realm, Carl Froch is ****ing his gloves together, and he still coming 'Joe Calzaghe is still coming, with supreme endurance'.

To beat real great fighters, you have to solve them. They are like a physics equation's or theories that need to be solved and figured out. I don't really quite think Alvarez has reached that level yet 'Only once I have seen him put in a situation of compete chaos, where his opponent is not just going to follow his lead? Only then will Alvarez of reached a level of supremacy in boxing that guys like Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones Junior had reached'.

You’re all over the place... you didn’t comprehend what I told you...

let me make it easier for you to understand athleticism.

Carl Froch and Calzaghe, fighters whom I’m a huge fan of, don’t have defining fights (vs who?) where they sacrificed weight the way Canelo did with Floyd. Froch didn’t fight Ward lower than 168. Calzaghe... I mean if we want to reference Bhop... Bernard was not “prime” in that time. Some fans claim if you gain too much weight and retract, it’s dentrimental. Meaning, if Bhop never went to 175 YET and had fought Calzaghe in a 168 title fight, how would that fight have gone? Hard to say.

Carl Froch and Calzaghe weren’t subjected to today’s standards of advanced drug testing...

these things are important to note because we’re talking about “natural” performance or two guys undergoing advanced random testing a month or months out. Most in their era simply relied on a post fight urine test... point is you can be on stuff a lot closer to the fight and rinse because there’s no random testing to begin with....

[Thuglife Nelo]

Please don't respond to that crackhead. He makes crackhead responses and is always on canelo's **** like a crackhead.

I have him blocked and don't see any of his posts because this new website layout completely makes ignored members posts invisible.

I haven't see a post from that crackhead in a long time. Only reason I see it now is because you quoted that crackhead.

Do u sell crack on your porch?

[Spray_resistant]

Natural gifts and talent will beat hard work most of the time if we're being honest, life isn't fair oh well.