Are GGG and Erislandy Lara better opponents than anyone else fought today? Yes. My point was that this doesn't actually help his resume because the majority of the boxing public doesn't think he actually beat them.
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Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
Point 4 was that he avoided the best competition that wanted to fight him and earned the right to fight him. Point 5 is that while he has fought better competition than other guys in the sport, he did not beat them convincingly. Which doesn't help your resume.
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
you spent most of that time typing that he avoids guys...he cherrypicks..he ducks....then tell me he fought better comp than most other guys in the sport....LOL....i mean...clearly you must see the ridiculousness in that no? im sure youll bend your words and points to tell me that makes sense and that you expect better because hes the privileged canelo...lol....but no....you want to pick on canelo stop watching the sport or pick on everyone else...
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Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
It's not ridiculous at all. Other fighters in the sport work for promoters and networks. Canelo works for himself. Whenever a Canelo Alvarez fight that we want to see doesn't get made, it's because of him and only him.
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
you could run a list of 7-8 names you want to see him fight right now....and when he doesnt fight 3 of them consecutively youll whine about it....cause your a fickle fgt.....thats not how the sport works these days.....he isnt going to fight who you want him to when you want him to...just like the golovkin fights when he was working for a promoter and a network...he still didnt fight guys exactly when most people wanted him to...and hes never going to....get over it and accept it.........floyd didnt fight everyone the fans always wanted him to fight when they wanted and hes considered the best of the last 25 years by most....get over it
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heres the poster TerrenceBudCharlo
"every time a canelo fight you want to see doesnt get made its because of canelo...hes his own boss and its his fault if a fight doesnt get made...doesnt work for a promoter or network and can do whatever he wants"
heres also him
"i suck off a fighter that has a weak resume...his name is in my screename and also theres a picture of him in my avatar...i have to bend over backwards to make his resume seem credible...he also had a chance when his contract expired to move on from his promo company..knowing full well that all the fights the fans want him in are with guys over on another network with another outfit...he chose to resign with the guy that had nothing.....but i still believe its not really his fault those fights arent made....in fact i likely think its the other guys fault"ReggieKray likes this.
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
its called the long game....stop being so narrow minded........get canelo exposure on floyd undercards....build relationship with haymon....get canelo the floyd fight...and boom...career takes off with exposure.....yes canelo would have become a star without it likely....but it helped immensely and accelerated it...i know it pains some to give schaeffer or haymon credit for ANYTHING....building the relationship with the guy that built floyds career was a smart move and if oscar hadnt ruined everything it could have probably continued
schaeffer knew canelo wasnt beating floyd...so why put canelo in a fight he couldnt win? because he knew what it meant....it was obvious
You're acting as if Showtime is the only network that gives exposure to up and coming stars.
All networks and other platforms do it. It's nothing unique. Canelo was the one giving them favours
not the other way around. Alvarez owe nothing to Haymon, Schaefer, Hoya, etc. None. Nada. Zero.
He was first introduced on HBO and that already did it.
Canelo Alvarez is a star today because fans like what they see when he fights.
No network or promoter can build a boring fighter. The fighter is his main promoter.Last edited by rickJen; 03-20-2021, 11:50 AM.
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Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
We've all wanted to see him fight Demetrius Andrade and the Charlo brothers for almost seven years now. He still won't make those fights. What gives? There's no excuse. They deserved that fight less than than Khan, Smith, Kirkland, JCC Jr., Yildirim, Fat Kovalev, Fielding? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? In his last 13 fights, 7 were opponents that absolutely nobody wanted to see. And stop it with the Yildirim was mandated bull****, we already have the proof that it was Canelo who told the WBC to order that fight. That on its own is enough of a reason not to like Canelo, who does **** like that?
andrade, who is from my home state and ive known since he was a kid, is still fighting euro champ level comp in his 30s and doesnt have a single good name on it...his best win is sulecki...good win but nobody even really knows who he is.....
the charlo fight is one that can and will still happen(provided charlo doesnt get knocked off)...youre one of those guys that thinks every two guys need to fight when you want to see it...and they should...it doesnt always make business sense for both guys....charlo prob isnt looking at that fight in the same way you are...hes looking at it when its worth 20 mil or so to him....not friggin 8 years ago when its worth about 2.5.......you probably out here thinking garcia/haney should fight today...or teo/haney should happen today.....lol....these guys are trying to maximize the value in those fights...not fight each other for short money or when only one of them his a household name.......you have a lot to learn about how the fighters and managers think.....
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postheres the poster TerrenceBudCharlo
"every time a canelo fight you want to see doesnt get made its because of canelo...hes his own boss and its his fault if a fight doesnt get made...doesnt work for a promoter or network and can do whatever he wants"
heres also him
"i suck off a fighter that has a weak resume...his name is in my screename and also theres a picture of him in my avatar...i have to bend over backwards to make his resume seem credible...he also had a chance when his contract expired to move on from his promo company..knowing full well that all the fights the fans want him in are with guys over on another network with another outfit...he chose to resign with the guy that had nothing.....but i still believe its not really his fault those fights arent made....in fact i likely think its the other guys fault"
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
i never once said that yildirim was a mando or gave you anything like that about that crap fight...its a crap fight and everyone does it.....
andrade, who is from my home state and ive known since he was a kid, is still fighting euro champ level comp in his 30s and doesnt have a single good name on it...his best win is sulecki...good win but nobody even really knows who he is.....
the charlo fight is one that can and will still happen(provided charlo doesnt get knocked off)...youre one of those guys that thinks every two guys need to fight when you want to see it...and they should...it doesnt always make business sense for both guys....charlo prob isnt looking at that fight in the same way you are...hes looking at it when its worth 20 mil or so to him....not friggin 8 years ago when its worth about 2.5.......you probably out here thinking garcia/haney should fight today...or teo/haney should happen today.....lol....these guys are trying to maximize the value in those fights...not fight each other for short money or when only one of them his a household name.......you have a lot to learn about how the fighters and managers think.....
I do think these fights should happen today because I'm a fan of boxing. The fans win when the best always fight the best. You damn right I want Teo to fight Haney today. Why wouldn't you want to see this fight??
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