2 simple reasons why insecure men hate on canelo

[Shadoww702]

Here is why we don't like Canelo Alvarez. These are facts and logical reasons, not hate or insecurity.

1. CONTROVERSIAL WINS AND REFUSING REMATCHES. There is nothing wrong with a controversial win. However, when you beat an opponent controversially, the grown up thing to do is to give that man a rematch. Floyd did it with JLC and Maidana. Ward did it with Kovalev. However, Canelo did not do it with Trout, Lara, GGG. Not only did he refuse to give them rematches, he talked trash and acted like he clearly won all those fights when he didn't. This is not how a true champion behaves. He made fun of Lara's defensive first style, but then reinvented himself to become a defensive/pot shotting/"boring" fighter. This is the ultimate proof he knows he lost to Lara if you ask me. Look, I'm not saying he lost to those three. But he did not clearly win. A real champ runs it back.

2. CORRUPTION. Every tough Canelo Alvarez fight seems to have a corrupt scorecard. Stanely Christodulu 118-110 over Trout. CJ Ross 114-114 with Mayweather. Levi Martinez 117-111 over Lara. Adelaide Byrd 118-110 GGG. When you receive a scorecard that is so out of touch with the reality, the only logical conclusion is CORRUPTION. And when you know for a fact 1 judge is biased, how do you know the other judges aren't? Now we can't prove that Team Canelo and Golden Boy are paying off judges or friends with these judges, but when **** like this happens FOUR TIMES, I cannot believe that it is a coincidence.

3. FAILED DRUG TESTS. I really do not need to explain this one.

4. AVOIDING THE BEST COMPETITION. This is the controversial, the ones the Canelo fans get the most defensive about, one because Canelo fans always brag about his "resume." What you conveniently ignore is that CANELO WORKS FOR HIMSELF. That means he is his own boss and gets to pick whoever he fights. Nobody opponent will ever say no to a fair Canelo Alvarez fight. All other fighters work for promoters and network. One easy deflection tactic you use is "Bud Crawford's resume is trash" or "why hasn't Andrade fought anyone." Canelo gets held to a higher standard because HE RUNS THE SPORT OF BOXING. Point blank period. Whoever Canelo wants to fight, the networks and promoters will bend over backwards to make this happen. This is not true for any other fighter in the sport. We know that he could have fought Demetrius Andrade back when he was a champion at 154. Could have fought Jermall Charlo for his belt at 154. Or Jermell Charlo. But instead he chose to fight Amir Khan and Liam Smith. Then those guys chased him to 160 and Canelo still refused to fight them.

5. CONTROVERSIAL WINS DO NOT MAKE A RESUME GREAT. This is more a problem with Canelo's fans. Not Canelo himself. His fans talk up Canelo's resume like it's by far the best thing in the world. But here's the thing. Even though Canelo has fought the best comp, controversial wins don't help your resume. There is still a large percentage of the boxing public that is convinced that he didn't beat Trout, Lara, and GGG. OF course he lost to Floyd. Your resume can't be as good as you say it is if you haven't truly proven that you are better than those four.

6. LIES DESIGNED TO TRICK CASUAL FANS. One of the things that Canelo is so great at, that nobody else does in the sport, is the way he cherrypicks, lies and manipulates things into making the casual fans THINK that he's fighting the toughest opponents, or that he's just doing what the sanctioning bodies forced him to. One example is that he desperately wanted to fight Kovalev. How do we know he was so desperate? When is the last time you saw anyone turn down a Canelo fight but Canelo continued to chase him? That was Kovalev. And we know why. Why would you chase Kovalev when he wasn't even close to peak form or the top guy at 175? Since casuals would think he beat the same prime Krusher that Ward beat, but the reality is he beat a washed up, alcoholic version of that guy. He did the same thing at 160. He didn't want to fight his mandatory Charlo, so he goes to WBC and asks him to create a special belt, called the franchise champion, to fool people into thinking that he was still the champ and wasn't avoiding his mandatory. One last thing. Let's look at the recent fight with Yildirim. One common lie I hear repeated on this board was that the WBC mandated that he fight Yildirim. That's not all true. Mauricio Suleman admitted in his own words, after the WBC ordered the fight with Yildirim, that it was actually TEAM CANELO who went to the WBC and told them to order that fight. That way, they could make it look like this wasn't a cherrypick and he as just doing what the WBC say he need to do. But this as all a big lie.

7. UNFAIRLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OPPONENTS. To be fair, Manny and Floyd did this one. But nobody does it as bad as Canelo Alvarez. From the short fight camps, to the catchweight, to the rehydration clauses, fighting in Texas with corrupt judges like Levi Martinez. Every Canelo Alvarez fight contract is designed to put his opponent at the most unfair advantage possible and ensure that Canelo Alvarez wins

There are many more reasons we don't like him, but these are the big ones. To be CLEAR. I have no problems with you being a fan of him, and I am happy to debate this with anyone. These are just the reasons I do not like him, and many other fans do not like him, and this is not hate but truth.

I couldn't even read this Bsht! You lost me when your rant went on rematches that Canelo refused to do and listed ggg....

you need to worry about your OWN fighters you root for.

Andrade always dropping out of fights LAST minute. Why no rematch with Jack Culcay doe! That was a close fight.

Bi@tch you better HOPE Andrade looks good against Willans are your gonna look like an even BIGGER ass clown then you are.

Liam ain't gonna be an easy win! I bet your DUMB ass has Andrade by EASY KO


Why did didnt Abdrade even FIGHT Lara once doe!!!

Because your a fkn IDIOT!!! WDKSAB

And Charlo??? Shop worn 30 year old Trout took Charlo to the limit in a very close fight. The Trout that fought Canelo and Cotto probably beats Charlo on that night.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I couldn't even read this Bsht! You lost me when your rant went on rematches that Canelo refused to do and listed ggg....

you need to worry about your OWN fighters you root for.

Andrade always dropping out of fights LAST minute. Why no rematch with Jack Culcay doe! That was a close fight.

Bi@tch you better HOPE Andrade looks good against Willans are your gonna look like an even BIGGER ass clown then you are.

Liam ain't gonna be an easy win! I bet your DUMB ass has Andrade by EASY KO


Why did didnt Abdrade even FIGHT Lara once doe!!!

Because your a fkn IDIOT!!! WDKSAB

And Charlo??? Shop worn 30 year old Trout took Charlo to the limit in a very close fight. The Trout that fought Canelo and Cotto probably beats Charlo on that night.

That guy is an LDBC troll.

Both Charlo brothers went missing on VADA testing and he didn’t give Korobov a rematch.... the same Charlos that allow Andrade to invade their press conferences and they do nothing but bring up old stuff...

denialism at best.

[Shadoww702]

That guy is an LDBC troll.

Both Charlo brothers went missing on VADA testing and he didn’t give Korobov a rematch.... the same Charlos that allow Andrade to invade their press conferences and they do nothing but bring up old stuff...

denialism at best.

Yup! Why no Korobov rematch WITHOUT the WEIGHT drain this time??? See these dudes a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!

LHW having to come down MW. And was ROBBED!!!

That ****** *** brings up Canelo weight and bad judging!!!

I fkn HATE hypocrites...

[Shadoww702]

That guy is an LDBC troll.

Both Charlo brothers went missing on VADA testing and he didn’t give Korobov a rematch.... the same Charlos that allow Andrade to invade their press conferences and they do nothing but bring up old stuff...

denialism at best.

Denial??? That's WAY past denial... That shoving his head up his ass and leaving it there.

[TernceBudCharlo]

That guy is an LDBC troll.

Both Charlo brothers went missing on VADA testing and he didn’t give Korobov a rematch.... the same Charlos that allow Andrade to invade their press conferences and they do nothing but bring up old stuff...

denialism at best.

This is another reason Canelo fans annoy me. You make up this rule that jabs don't count anymore. But Charlo outjabbed Korobov 56-9. Unless you rock, drop, or greatly outland the other guy with power punches, I don't see how you win a boxing match when the other guy establishes such jab dominance. I think most people had Charlo winning that fight, he had Korobov out on his feet in the 12th. It'd be a good rematch though, I'd dig it, but Korobov isn't even healthy and has been hurt forever. And it's nowhere near as controversial of a win as Canelo's, I think just about everyone had Charlo winning.

Interestingly, Lara also out jabbed Canelo 55-9. Crazy that the numbers were identical basically.

[Shadoww702]

thse clowns were around here for years saying that canelos career would end with a golovkin fight in savage fashion...then tried to pretend they didnt say all that...then started making excuses and claiming it def would happen if canelo didnt run....

LOf'ingL

My bad! Not trying to hijack your thread.

Back to ggg. The 2nd fight I had some GGG fans over my house as well. And before the fight they kept saying is "Canelo gonna RUN again" "CanChicken" cluck cluck cluck... Man when Canelo man'd up and had GGG fighintg backwards the entire fight was a thing of beauty....

And when GGG RAN out the ring CRYING!!!! *** they left quick... Theyre GOD left them...

[Shadoww702]

Fact finder! When was the last time a boxer missed over 1200x times in two fights? Has any highly rated MW boxer EVER missed that many times??? Or any weight class for that matter??? Kellen "GGG" Keller

[TernceBudCharlo]

Man when Canelo man'd up and had GGG fighintg backwards the entire fight was a thing of beauty....
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This is fanboyism at it's finest when you describe it like that. Jacobs did the same thing and had a lot of success with it. So did Kassim Ouma, Willie Monroe, and even Gabe Rosado. Everyone always knew GGG is at his weakest when he's fighting off the back foot and that the best way to have success against him is to move forward.

[TernceBudCharlo]

That guy is an LDBC troll.

Both Charlo brothers went missing on VADA testing and he didn’t give Korobov a rematch.... the same Charlos that allow Andrade to invade their press conferences and they do nothing but bring up old stuff...

denialism at best.

The LDBC lives rent free in your head. I told you a million times I'm not with the LDBC.

[Boxing-1013]

You can argue GGG didn't live up to expectations vs Canelo in those 2 fights, and even vs Jacobs, and certainly vs Sergei. But the only debatable fight in those 4 was vs Sergei. The other 3 GGG won clean, no doubt about it. So your first point doesn't really hold much water.