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  • #51
    Originally posted by genrick View Post

    What stars has Haymon created?

    You're acting as if Showtime is the only network that gives exposure to up and coming stars.
    All networks and other platforms do it. It's nothing unique. Canelo was the one giving them favours
    not the other way around. Alvarez owe nothing to Haymon, Schaefer, Hoya, etc. None. Nada. Zero.

    He was first introduced on HBO and that already did it.
    hahahaha haymon was creating stars longer than you realize...youre too dumb to understand......haymon was the one building wilder, spence, danny, etc....tank is already more known than pretty much any fighter 26 and under....and haymon can build more stars when he has more time and resources to devote to it....he doesnt right now because he has too many established fighters to find fights, tv time and money for....hes got wilder and a bunch lesser known HW names......hes got tank...hes got the WWs....the 154 guys...and others....when haymon starts devoting time to building more stars it will happen

    i didnt say canelo owed haymon or schaeffer or anyone anything ...i said that the schaeffer and haymon partnership helped him greatly and accelerated it....canelos name benefitted from that partnership....thats undeniable.....lol@canelo giving them favors....it was haymon putting canelo on floyd undercards...and haymon giving canelo the floyd fight.....youre too dumb and ignorant to understand...

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

      Who is lining up to fight Andrade? You act like it's his fault. He's tried for Canelo, won't get it. He even walked into the ring and in a nice way explained why he deserved a fight with GGG. GGG still won't give it to him. Billy Joe Saunders he was signed to fight, but Saunders dropped out with a drug test. As much as I like the Charlo brothers, I don't think they're in a rush to fight this guy.

      I do think these fights should happen today because I'm a fan of boxing. The fans win when the best always fight the best.
      nobody is...and partially his fault at some point you cant blame everything else and have to look in the mirror...nobody has wanted him to excel and succeed more than me....we both grew up in RI and we love to see our people succeed on the big stage

      ive long bashed hearn for not being able to land him a big fight....hearn has one of the biggest assets in boxing in AJ..and he cant leverage that to get boo boo something? its kind of absurd.....BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

      years ago he backed out of fighting jermell like 3 weeks before the fight...his father claimed it was over money and all this nonsense....andrades own promoter said paul andrade wasnt being truthful about the amount and there were reports the actual money was double what paul andrade claimed it was......and then there was the whole fiasco with roc nation where people claimed he backed out of that fight because ROC told him to and that theyd pay him to back out of it and land him and even bigger fight

      boo boo can blame himself at some point....cant always point the finger in the other directions...any man who does that has issues

      soon you will realize the fans dont really matter to these guys....theyre not going to do what you want when you want them to...sooner you realize it better off youll be....the business side of boxing exists and will not cease to no matter how much you wish it would
      Last edited by Curt Henning; 03-20-2021, 11:31 AM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

        the charlo fight is one that can and will still happen(provided charlo doesnt get knocked off)...youre one of those guys that thinks every two guys need to fight when you want to see it...and they should...it doesnt always make business sense for both guys....charlo prob isnt looking at that fight in the same way you are...hes looking at it when its worth 20 mil or so to him....not friggin 8 years ago when its worth about 2.5.......you probably out here thinking garcia/haney should fight today...or teo/haney should happen today.....lol....these guys are trying to maximize the value in those fights...not fight each other for short money or when only one of them his a household name.......you have a lot to learn about how the fighters and managers think.....
        I understand that this is the business model of boxing. But I firmly believe this will damage the integrity of boxing in the long term and lead to its demise if this continues. Think about it. In the NFL, the super bowl is played once a year. In UFC, the champion must defend against the mandatory challenger. In the NBA, the NBA finals is played once a year. Every year in every sport, in some cases twice a year in every sport, the best must go up against the best in order to determine who the real champion is. This is what enables these sports to thrive for so long. So while it may not make business sense for both guys, I do think this will hurt boxing if things keep going the way they are,

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        • #54
          Wow this henning clown makes it look like Haymon and Floyd didn't benefit from the Canelo fights.
          He makes it sound as if they did the fight for charity. What an idiot.
          He's really insisting Haymon was giving favours to already star materials like Alvarez.
          He's not using common sense. He's using his basest sense because of fanboyistic loyalty.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

            all you had to do was come around here and you would have expected canelo to never show or walk out of the ring as soon as the bell sounded.....thats how loud these guys were for years swearing canelo wanted no part of golovkin and his career would be over if he ever grew a pair....thats just factually what happened around here and other boxing boards
            LMFAO!!! Those dudes made it sound like Canelo wouldn't even make it to the ring. I sht u not I made good money on the 1st fight. I took bets saying GGG was gonna Knock Canelo the *** out!!! In rounds 3, 5, 7. 7 was the highest rounds.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

              LMFAO!!! Those dudes made it sound like Canelo wouldn't even make it to the ring. I sht u not I made good money on the 1st fight. I took bets saying GGG was gonna Knock Canelo the *** out!!! In rounds 3, 5, 7. 7 was the highest rounds.
              thse clowns were around here for years saying that canelos career would end with a golovkin fight in savage fashion...then tried to pretend they didnt say all that...then started making excuses and claiming it def would happen if canelo didnt run....

              LOf'ingL

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              • #57
                Originally posted by genrick View Post
                Wow this henning clown makes it look like Haymon and Floyd didn't benefit from the Canelo fights.
                He makes it sound as if they did the fight for charity. What an idiot.
                He's really insisting Haymon was giving favours to already star materials like Alvarez.
                He's not using common sense. He's using his basest sense because of fanboyistic loyalty.
                youre an idiot...but youve always been...so its not a suprise you fail to comprehend.....

                yes floyd and haymon benefit from canelo fight....but not as much as canelo did....but yeah it was mutual...both gained....which is why the schaeffer/haymon partnership was mutually beneficial and golden boy was thriving overall as a result......but floyd was by far the biggest star in the sport and canelo was still just little saul alvarez till they put him on floyd undercard....thats when the pump begain...and the floyd fight, which floyd didnt really have to do, helped "bigly"....youd have to be a complete dolt to refute that....which you are

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by genrick View Post
                  Canelo Alvarez is a star today because fans like what they see when he fights.
                  No network or promoter can build a boring fighter. The fighter is his main promoter.
                  Very true. You can have the best promoter in the world and still have no success in building a boring fighter into a star. This is not Hollywood. This is about fighting in the ring. Fans want to see sparks fly. Only the fighter can provide those sparks. Not the promoter or network.
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

                    nobody is...and partially his fault at some point you cant blame everything else and have to look in the mirror...nobody has wanted him to excel and succeed more than me....we both grew up in RI and we love to see our people succeed on the big stage

                    ive long bashed hearn for not being able to land him a big fight....hearn has one of the biggest assets in boxing in AJ..and he cant leverage that to get boo boo something? its kind of absurd.....BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

                    years ago he backed out of fighting jermell like 3 weeks before the fight...his father claimed it was over money and all this nonsense....andrades own promoter said paul andrade wasnt being truthful about the amount and there were reports the actual money was double what paul andrade claimed it was......and then there was the whole fiasco with roc nation where people claimed he backed out of that fight because ROC told him to and that theyd pay him to back out of it and land him and even bigger fight

                    boo boo can blame himself at some point....cant always point the finger in the other directions...any man who does that has issues

                    soon you will realize the fans dont really matter to these guys....theyre not going to do what you want when you want them to...sooner you realize it better off youll be....the business side of boxing exists and will not cease to no matter how much you wish it would
                    He backed out of the Lara fight as well. First said *** yeah then said...

                    He [Lara] won’t engage or try and make the fight entertaining, especially if it’s coming into my favor,” Andrade explained. “He’s just going to survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches." - Andrade

                    and he backed out of the Sergiy fight.

                    "Middleweight prospect Sergiy Derevyanchenko (11-0, 9 KOs) spoke to Boxing Scene claiming that Andrade had pulled out of a deal to fight Derevyanchenko on December 16 in Laval, Quebec on the Saunders-Lemieux WBO middleweight championship."

                    "The reason behind the fight not going ahead was because Andrade believed he would not have had the time to prepare for a tough fight against Derevyanchenk".

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

                      nobody is...and partially his fault at some point you cant blame everything else and have to look in the mirror...nobody has wanted him to excel and succeed more than me....we both grew up in RI and we love to see our people succeed on the big stage

                      ive long bashed hearn for not being able to land him a big fight....hearn has one of the biggest assets in boxing in AJ..and he cant leverage that to get boo boo something? its kind of absurd.....BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

                      years ago he backed out of fighting jermell like 3 weeks before the fight...his father claimed it was over money and all this nonsense....andrades own promoter said paul andrade wasnt being truthful about the amount and there were reports the actual money was double what paul andrade claimed it was......and then there was the whole fiasco with roc nation where people claimed he backed out of that fight because ROC told him to and that theyd pay him to back out of it and land him and even bigger fight

                      boo boo can blame himself at some point....cant always point the finger in the other directions...any man who does that has issues

                      soon you will realize the fans dont really matter to these guys....theyre not going to do what you want when you want them to...sooner you realize it better off youll be....the business side of boxing exists and will not cease to no matter how much you wish it would
                      100% agree. End of the day these fighters have to take responsibility for their OWN career choices.

                      Andrade had a chance to fight three good fighters that would of Definitely helped or hurt his career.

                      He could of been the 1st to give Charlo and Sergiy a loss. Lara was highly ranked in 2017 but Andrade went to Germany to fight Jack instead. And almost lost for peanuts...
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