Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: If Vergil Ortiz Beats Maurice Hooker, He's Going Straight To The Top

[StoptheFight]

Obviously why GDP matched Ortiz with him and why ODLH is talking up how great a victory it would be.

I kind of agree, but if ortiz took this fight lightly he could get out-boxed.

[Doubledagger]

The kid can only fight those that accept to fight him. I mean when ex-welterweight champ Porter says he won’t give Vergil a fight b/c “he didn’t get a shot when he was coming up” what can he do? Ortiz has called out other champs like Thurman, Garcia, Spence a number of times yet for whatever reason none of them has accepted his challenge. Let’s be honest here, everyone @ 147 lbs knows they’re in for a long night w/t Vergil if they fight him. Anyhow, sooner rather than later Vergil will get a mandatory shot @ one of the belts and when he does you’ll see why I say that he’ll go down as an ATG, this kid is a special talent just watch.

When could Spence have realistically fought Ortiz?

Should he have fought Ortiz instead of unifying belts with Porter?

Should he have fought Ortiz instead of his far more accomlished mandatory challenger in Danny Garcia?

Should he fight Ortiz now instead unifying belts with Ugas?

Gimme a break man!

Creating false narratives here!

[Bronx2245]

Mo signed a 2 fight deal w/t Golden Boy his first fight is Ortiz his 2nd is most likely Ellis

Ellis should've gotten the opportunity to fight Vergil first! I still haven't seen anything about Hooker signing a deal w/ GBP. If you have a link, please post it!

[Bronx2245]

When could Spence have realistically fought Ortiz?

Should he have fought Ortiz instead of unifying belts with Porter?

Should he have fought Ortiz instead of his far more accomlished mandatory challenger in Danny Garcia?

Should he fight Ortiz now instead unifying belts with Ugas?

Gimme a break man!

Creating false narratives here!

Vergil Ortiz Doesn't Think He Can Beat Spence Now, 'But Maybe In A Year'

April 22, 2020

“As of right now, you know what? I would give anyone in the 147 division a hard fight,” Ortiz said. “I don’t care who it is. As far as me thinking that I can beat him right now, I don’t think so. But maybe in a year. I’m not gonna rush myself, like these other fighters. I’m not gonna call someone out that, you know, just for clout or anything like that. You know, I genuinely think that I can beat some of these guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/vergil-o...e-year--148427

That was less than a year ago!

[RightJabLikeZab]

Ortiz is a -1800 favorite. This is not really a "step up". He's supposed to beat Hooker, most likely brutally.

[Eastlos]

Vergil Ortiz Doesn't Think He Can Beat Spence Now, 'But Maybe In A Year'

April 22, 2020

“As of right now, you know what? I would give anyone in the 147 division a hard fight,” Ortiz said. “I don’t care who it is. As far as me thinking that I can beat him right now, I don’t think so. But maybe in a year. I’m not gonna rush myself, like these other fighters. I’m not gonna call someone out that, you know, just for clout or anything like that. You know, I genuinely think that I can beat some of these guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/vergil-o...e-year--148427

That was less than a year ago!

On June 2020 Vergil clearly states he’s ready and can stop Errol now. Anyhow, The kid ain’t ducking anyone if any of the top PBC welters where offered to him he take the fight in a second, I admire that from him the only other youngster willing to take on the Top Dawgs is Teófimo everyone else is just clout chasing i.e Haney, Garcia etc...

https://*************/watch?v=IN8Y5MgavhE

[Eastlos]

Ortiz is a -1800 favorite. This is not really a "step up". He's supposed to beat Hooker, most likely brutally.

The odds tell you all you need to know about Vergil’s talent. When a 22 yrs old kid is as heavily favorite against a former champ in Hooker that tells you this kid is good real good...

[RightJabLikeZab]

The odds tell you all you need to know about Vergil’s talent. When a 22 yrs old kid is as heavily favorite against a former champ in Hooker that tells you this kid is good real good...

I agree that he's talented and I see him as champ at 147 at some point, but the odds also reflect that Hooker is not seen as a real threat. Yeah he's a champ, but who did he beat? But it's not a fight I'm mad at.

[Bronx2245]

On June 2020 Vergil clearly states he’s ready and can stop Errol now. Anyhow, The kid ain’t ducking anyone if any of the top PBC welters where offered to him he take the fight in a second, I admire that from him the only other youngster willing to take on the Top Dawgs is Teófimo everyone else is just clout chasing i.e Haney, Garcia etc...

https://*************/watch?v=IN8Y5MgavhE

So from April to June, he got that much better? Lol! He wasn't ready, and he admitted it! Can't change history. However, if he wins, and Oscar allows it, a fight between him and Errol would probably be bigger, especially in Dallas, than a fight between him and Crawford! Jerry Jones will be all over it!

[tokon]

I kind of agree, but if ortiz took this fight lightly he could get out-boxed.

At this stage in his career I think it's unlikely that Ortiz will gave taken hooker lightly. Getting outboxed us still a possibility but remains to be seen if hooker can actually do it. Possible but, again, unlikely.

Thanks.