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  • SweetPbfAli
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    #31
    Originally posted by thack
    Of course George has been there and done it and his opinions count for much. For me , unfortunately the blue print has been set . If a little short obese fighter with slow feet can dismantle Joshua as he did , with Joshua asking his corner 'was he going to do next' then a much bigger ,fitter and more skilled fighter with a much better ring IQ will destroy him .The only way Joshua wins and this is heavyweight boxing is to get to him early and hope Tyson foolishly hasn't taken the 'bodybuilder' as he calls him seriously . I see Tyson stopping Joshua around 7-9.
    I don't think it's that simple. The short fat guy had good power, fast hands, a good chin, and punched in between AJ's punches. His lack of height helped him since he likes to fight at the same range that AJ does but he gets his punches off faster.

    AJ realized he couldn't fight like that in the rematch and fought in a style that played to his physical gifts while minimizing Andy's opportunities for success.

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      #32
      I can't see Joshua beating Fury over the full distance, but anything is possible. Joshua has more power, and Fury has more boxing skill and is very awkward.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

        I don't think it's that simple. The short fat guy had good power, fast hands, a good chin, and punched in between AJ's punches. His lack of height helped him since he likes to fight at the same range that AJ does but he gets his punches off faster.

        AJ realized he couldn't fight like that in the rematch and fought in a style that played to his physical gifts while minimizing Andy's opportunities for success.
        Good points. Joshua's record shows a history of some problems against shorter fighters. Punching against tall targets like Fury seems to suit him better.

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          #34
          Joshua has talents and has improved considerably. He still does not have the range that Fury has in the ring. Fury can change tactics midstream, he also knows how to use reach well, and Joshua under most scenarios will have to find a way to combat that reach because reach is a fundamental advantage/attribute. Joshua also cannot depend on a KO. Unless Joshua jumps a notch, I don't think he can win this. But Joshua is talented, he can occasionally press the action, and he has decent power. If Fury is not at his best, or makes a mistake, Joshua is capable of being Johnny on the spot.

          Joshua has another advantage... If this fight goes to a decision the judges are usually such crap that, regardless of performance, he could get a gift decision... Like what happened to Fury the first Wilder fight. Which is why I don't bet on fights... Your at the mercy of the ****** judges. you can only hope they get it right. of course the converse can be true and Fury could get the same treatment.

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            #35
            Originally posted by billeau2
            Joshua has talents and has improved considerably. He still does not have the range that Fury has in the ring. Fury can change tactics midstream, he also knows how to use reach well, and Joshua under most scenarios will have to find a way to combat that reach because reach is a fundamental advantage/attribute. Joshua also cannot depend on a KO. Unless Joshua jumps a notch, I don't think he can win this. But Joshua is talented, he can occasionally press the action, and he has decent power. If Fury is not at his best, or makes a mistake, Joshua is capable of being Johnny on the spot.

            Joshua has another advantage... If this fight goes to a decision the judges are usually such crap that, regardless of performance, he could get a gift decision... Like what happened to Fury the first Wilder fight. Which is why I don't bet on fights... Your at the mercy of the ****** judges. you can only hope they get it right. of course the converse can be true and Fury could get the same treatment.
            I’ll bet you A.J stops Fury ? If that’s your excuse on bad decisions as the reason to run from one ? Even though it’s basically a Top Rank promotion on PPV , you say it’s A.J that may get the gifts in a 12 rounder ? Ha

            Also,Fury didn’t get a gift decision that’s what you said here now , clearly Fury out boxed Wilder and was robbed ,it’s not the only questionable scoring in a Wilder fight either . You picked Wilder twice in a row like a bone head so you of course say it’s Wilder who should have won the first fight ? Ha
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-17-2021, 09:22 PM.

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            • Fighter78
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              #36
              Old George can't see Joshua beating fury because he's skipped out on his optometrist appointment....that's all.

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                #37
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                I’ll bet you A.J stops Fury ? If that’s your excuse on bad decisions as the reason to run from one ? Even though it’s basically a Top Rank promotion on PPV , you say it’s A.J that may get the gifts in a 12 rounder ? Ha

                Also,Fury didn’t get a gift decision that’s what you said here now , clearly Fury out boxed Wilder and was robbed ,it’s not the only questionable scoring in a Wilder fight either . You picked Wilder twice in a row like a bone head so you of course say it’s Wilder who should have won the first fight ? Ha
                Your the runner... Shoulder Roll called you out after you disparaged posters who were not an imbecile like you are... I never challenged any poster, never said "If you think Joshua can win your crazy" that is your script redumber. I will bet on boxing again when there is a guarantee that bad judging cannot ruin an outcome... Until then its not in my control enough to make such a bet. And posters like you and Siablo use bets as a way to creat hostility and division...not my thing. If you want to bet, find another individual that wants to control your sig. Besides how would I trust an idiot like you? Shoulder agreed to a bet and you biatched out...

                Also again, learn to read or have an adult read you the post. I said either guy could get a wrong decision and I said I wanted to see how Fury was coming along. I never picked Wilder to beat Fury you idiot lol. I am a die hard Fury fan why would I do that? Show me a post where I picked Wilder to win any fight.

                You get more and more desperate. Its sad... shoulder ruined ya. Redumber... a troll that has been handled. So desperate he is trying to talk people into bets, trying to again put words in people's proverbial mouths...

                So everyone who reads this post: Notice what REdumber interprets my post to be: That I thought Wider beat Fury... you see why this guy is such a blathering idiot? I happen to be a die hard Fury fan. I never predicted Wilder would win any fight lol, I don't predict fights. But because this moron was confronted with a bet and backed down, he wants me to make a bet with him about the Fury fight coming up... If I was going to bet on this fight I would put money down... and Ayyy I am a fan of the Gypsy King! Ha!

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                  #38
                  Tyson Fury is most certainly the favourite, let's see how he deals with that.

                  This is all a new experience for him, being favourite at elite level against another elite level fighter.

                  The last time he was in this position was for Kiltschko II etc.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Tyson Fury is most certainly the favourite, let's see how he deals with that.

                    This is all a new experience for him, being favourite at elite level against another elite level fighter.

                    The last time he was in this position was for Kiltschko II etc.
                    This is an understated factor in all of this. Fury has never defended the titles that he won. He has pulled off huge wins over long reigning champions twice, but has not defended afterwards.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      Your the runner... Shoulder Roll called you out after you disparaged posters who were not an imbecile like you are... I never challenged any poster, never said "If you think Joshua can win your crazy" that is your script redumber. I will bet on boxing again when there is a guarantee that bad judging cannot ruin an outcome... Until then its not in my control enough to make such a bet. And posters like you and Siablo use bets as a way to creat hostility and division...not my thing. If you want to bet, find another individual that wants to control your sig. Besides how would I trust an idiot like you? Shoulder agreed to a bet and you biatched out...

                      Also again, learn to read or have an adult read you the post. I said either guy could get a wrong decision and I said I wanted to see how Fury was coming along. I never picked Wilder to beat Fury you idiot lol. I am a die hard Fury fan why would I do that? Show me a post where I picked Wilder to win any fight.

                      You get more and more desperate. Its sad... shoulder ruined ya. Redumber... a troll that has been handled. So desperate he is trying to talk people into bets, trying to again put words in people's proverbial mouths...

                      So everyone who reads this post: Notice what REdumber interprets my post to be: That I thought Wider beat Fury... you see why this guy is such a blathering idiot? I happen to be a die hard Fury fan. I never predicted Wilder would win any fight lol, I don't predict fights. But because this moron was confronted with a bet and backed down, he wants me to make a bet with him about the Fury fight coming up... If I was going to bet on this fight I would put money down... and Ayyy I am a fan of the Gypsy King! Ha!
                      Shoulder roll still thinks Wilder will get a third fight ,that tells you how smart he is and how smart you are you think he won some bet he made excuses on no date or venue when it’s last to be announced . The poster then came out of hiding thinking Coppinger said the fight may be held up due to arbitration , but like you he didn’t pay attention to the full interview and once again hid when the opposite was actually suggested.


                      You’re also a habitual liar ,you said it was to early to early for Fury being out of ring in the first fight then said he was to heavy and wouldn’t be able to move like he should to win in the second fight . This guy should be called Pinocchio on here . Ha

                      You like throwing posters in front of you to shield you ,you’re a coward . Everyone can see you ducking and dodging this bet . Silly Billy you folded .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-19-2021, 06:34 AM.

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