Please Explain To Me How Hatton Was The Draw!

[BoxingChaos]

I hear it all the time on here, that Floyd has to prove himself to be a draw because Oscar carried the 1st card and Hatton carried the 2nd card. At best they say that Floyd was even up or just lower then Hatton but Ricky was definatly the draw.

When it comes to the Oscar fight I will give him his props because we all know who Oscar is but he still broke records with Floyd. No one has more big names on there resume than Oscar and he broke boxing records with Floyd. Dont tell me that Floyd had nothing to do with that. If you think that then youre lying to yourself but again, Ill give Oscar his due.

Hatton though, gets nothing from me. I dont see how people and media guys can sit there and say that with a straight face. Its like they dont even really think about it. I always ask this one question and I still never get a response. Who the hell in the US knew who Hatton was? No one. Sure he's beein in Europe and has some fans coming over but what does that have to do with US PPV sales. No one knew Hatton, no one. It was Floyd that sold that fight in the US and Floyd only. Dont give me this stuff that Floyd hasnt proven anything when it comes to sales or being the draw. Who knew Hatton? Seriously. No one was spending all that money to see Hatton fight. People knew Floyd. Give the man his props

I hate to burst your bubble but Floyd himself said:......



I WISH I HAD A BIG FOLLOWING LIKE YOU.

[DLT]

I hate to burst your bubble but Floyd himself said:......



I WISH I HAD A BIG FOLLOWING LIKE YOU.

1st of all he's being nice but 2nd and most im****taly, its apples & oranges. All of you are talkin about something totally different than me. 1st of all the fan base thing is overrated. Lets face it, boxing is much bigger over there then it is here. If Floyd was from Manchester then his following would be bigger than Hatton's without a doubt. Shoot, a ton of them love him even now. The main point though is that Hatton's huge fan base is what sells the tickets. The fight wouldve sold out no matter what but the Hatton fan base buys it up quicker and they all come over to support there guy. I wont take that away from him but the point is that there fans from England. Thats why I dont understand why you guys keep saying that. Hatton doesnt have a US following. Its from England. Therefore, they had nothing to do with the US sales for this fight. NOTHING!!!!!! Im not even saying it to be hating or anything. Its just common sense. Hatton's following had nothing to do with all those US PPV sales, bottom line

[BoxingChaos]

1st of all he's being nice but 2nd and most im****taly, its apples & oranges. All of you are talkin about something totally different than me. 1st of all the fan base thing is overrated. Lets face it, boxing is much bigger over there then it is here. If Floyd was from Manchester then his following would be bigger than Hatton's without a doubt. Shoot, a ton of them love him even now. The main point though is that Hatton's huge fan base is what sells the tickets. The fight wouldve sold out no matter what but the Hatton fan base buys it up quicker and they all come over to support there guy. I wont take that away from him but the point is that there fans from England. Thats why I dont understand why you guys keep saying that. Hatton doesnt have a US following. Its from England. Therefore, they had nothing to do with the US sales for this fight. NOTHING!!!!!! Im not even saying it to be hating or anything. Its just common sense. Hatton's following had nothing to do with all those US PPV sales, bottom line

We will see what the numbers look like in the JMM/PBF bout. We will see.

But Hatton is a draw and you tried to say he wasn't.

Floyd is hoping the Mexicans buy this fight, I know one Mexican that will not be buying this fight, me.

[DLT]

We will see what the numbers look like in the JMM/PBF bout. We will see.

But Hatton is a draw and you tried to say he wasn't.

Floyd is hoping the Mexicans buy this fight, I know one Mexican that will not be buying this fight, me.

I didnt say nothing dumb like that. I was strictly trying to say that you have to give Floyd the majority if not all the credit for the US PPV sales for the Hatton fight because no one in the US knew Hatton. Thats a fact. It has nothing to do with his following from England. Floyd isnt hoping Mexicans buy the fact. I hate it when people say that because if Floyd is banking on that then he will be broke. Name 1 Mexican in recent memory that had alot of PPV sales. The only one is Oscar. Not JMM, MAB, EM, Diaz, Margarito, or whoever. No matter how good they are, they cant sell. Oscar is the exception and most Mexicans dont even like him. The Mexicans have the worst PPV sales out of anyone

[BoxingChaos]

I didnt say nothing dumb like that. I was strictly trying to say that you have to give Floyd the majority if not all the credit for the US PPV sales for the Hatton fight because no one in the US knew Hatton. Thats a fact. It has nothing to do with his following from England. Floyd isnt hoping Mexicans buy the fact. I hate it when people say that because if Floyd is banking on that then he will be broke. Name 1 Mexican in recent memory that had alot of PPV sales. The only one is Oscar. Not JMM, MAB, EM, Diaz, Margarito, or whoever. No matter how good they are, they cant sell. Oscar is the exception and most Mexicans dont even like him. The Mexicans have the worst PPV sales out of anyone

JC Chavez comes to mind.

No one in the USA knows who Ricky Hatton is?



So how do I know Ricky Hatton?
I live in the US.
Are you talking about a different US?

[F l i c k e r]

I didnt say nothing dumb like that. I was strictly trying to say that you have to give Floyd the majority if not all the credit for the US PPV sales for the Hatton fight because no one in the US knew Hatton. Thats a fact. It has nothing to do with his following from England. Floyd isnt hoping Mexicans buy the fact. I hate it when people say that because if Floyd is banking on that then he will be broke. Name 1 Mexican in recent memory that had alot of PPV sales. The only one is Oscar. Not JMM, MAB, EM, Diaz, Margarito, or whoever. No matter how good they are, they cant sell. Oscar is the exception and most Mexicans dont even like him. The Mexicans have the worst PPV sales out of anyone

Really? PPV sales dont mean ****. Seriously, isn't Tyson still ranked as #4 5 and 6 of the all time PPV lists? Wasn't that **** 10 years ago? Okay, enough said.

The fact is, NO ONE pays to watch Mayweather. They pay to watch the guy on the other side of the ring whoop his ass. Ala Oscar and Hatton.

Honestly, DLT. If Mayweather is a big draw how come the people the two opponents he faced to make you think is a great draw have a HUGE following?
I like Mayweather as a boxer. But honestly, he isn't a draw, no one pays to watch Mayweather, they pay to watch someone else whoop his ass.

If he faught ****ing Jennings or some ****, would that fight sell out?

[sleazyfellow]

We will see what the numbers look like in the JMM/PBF bout. We will see.

But Hatton is a draw and you tried to say he wasn't.

Floyd is hoping the Mexicans buy this fight, I know one Mexican that will not be buying this fight, me.

Floyd only can draw big with a well known name, such as ODL and Hatton(he has diehard fans, just like the original hitman).

I know alot of mexis bought that ODL fight and felt gipped by it, Floyd doesnt have a crowd pleasing style, he runs and potshots too much, sure he got ricky down but who made that fight? Hatton carried the fight to him. Lets just hope this fight is more exciting, but knowing floyd its going to be a UD in his favor.

[ReadyUp]

I hear it all the time on here, that Floyd has to prove himself to be a draw because Oscar carried the 1st card and Hatton carried the 2nd card. At best they say that Floyd was even up or just lower then Hatton but Ricky was definatly the draw.

When it comes to the Oscar fight I will give him his props because we all know who Oscar is but he still broke records with Floyd. No one has more big names on there resume than Oscar and he broke boxing records with Floyd. Dont tell me that Floyd had nothing to do with that. If you think that then youre lying to yourself but again, Ill give Oscar his due.

Hatton though, gets nothing from me. I dont see how people and media guys can sit there and say that with a straight face. Its like they dont even really think about it. I always ask this one question and I still never get a response. Who the hell in the US knew who Hatton was? No one. Sure he's beein in Europe and has some fans coming over but what does that have to do with US PPV sales. No one knew Hatton, no one. It was Floyd that sold that fight in the US and Floyd only. Dont give me this stuff that Floyd hasnt proven anything when it comes to sales or being the draw. Who knew Hatton? Seriously. No one was spending all that money to see Hatton fight. People knew Floyd. Give the man his props

If you were in Vegas during the Hatton/Mayweather fight you'd understand. ****ing Little England in Sin City that week.

As far as PPV goes I know so many people in Austin that bought it solely because of Floyd. That fight was huge. I even heard women talking about buying that fight. For real.

[ArthurSherwoode]

Floyd is kind of a draw, and kinda sorta got the "ppv guy" mantle for beating DeLaHoya, but with a fight between two elites you better believe HBO was the real draw... They put a lot of money into promoting that fight. And the real deal is that Floyd is mainly draw because he goes and does WWE/Dancing With the Stars/etc,not because he is a hugely popular crossover sports star. This fight (w/JMM) will tell the real story, and despite the massive push HBO is putting on it, I'll be very surprised to see it break 600. I'd bet the mortgage that it won't come within 150k of Cotto/Pacquiao also.

[Doctor_Tenma]

yea thats right he isnt a draw he thinks he the cash cow
baldomir is not a no name he just beat zab which made a fanbase for him i was a fan then he beats gatti everyone watched gatti fight and they saw him ko gatti thus more fans he had that underdog who made it appeal to him kinda like gatti did every one loves a underdog besides he was the lineal ww champion......gatti is self explanatory he can fight any body and he would get poeple to see it.....zab fight was a good matchup and it had people interested.....hatton was the draw im talking about ppv numbers and the fact that both were undefeated at the time.....hatton has a fanbase in the u.s. too he has a crowd pleasing style....and people wanted to see floyd lose..... do you have a link to these numbers? they seem fabricated........floyd is not draw he has a tiny fanbase

Not fabricated, search them up.