im sorry but pacquiao would wipe the floor with henry armstrong...

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  • KILLA RIGHT
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    #61
    Originally posted by popeyes
    sorry but i dont think anyone would laugh after getting hit with the left hook that pacquiao landed on hatton

    they would because i never seen a left hook ko hatton

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      #62
      i somewhat agree with the ts.

      people should look at this objectively, and not get caught up with the nostalgia of old school fighters. problem is that "HARDCORE" boxing fans seems to have biased with old school fighters.

      fact is, most modern fighters would most likely beat the old fighters based on modern training techniques.

      also, some people make it seems like modern fighters would not ever get to the level of old school fighters. they were different eras, with different rules. you do not base a modern fighter's greatness with old school standards. it is unfair to the modern fighters.

      i mean people ***** about how fighters from the 1920's has like 100+ wins while this guy has like 35 wins, when fighting 3-4 times a year is today's norm. how would the modern day fighter measure up with the old school guy? fight 20 times a year while most of his opponents fights 3 times a year? please.

      appreciating what old school fighters did in their time is one thing. completely discrediting modern day fighters saying they can't measure up with them is another.

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      • TheGreatA
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        #63
        Originally posted by !! 2Tough !!
        Rogan and Ricardo have no SKILL that is why Oscar, Shane(modern fighters) easilyyyyyyy destroyed him..

        Rogan is a dum *** taxi driver that JUST knows to fight with his Irish background.
        Carnera and Baer too were easily destroyed by Joe Louis.

        Every era has their own crude but strong and durable fighters who might not be top class boxers but can win titles every once in a while with sheer strength. You can't win a 100m sprint by being tough but you can win a fight by being tough in boxing.

        Was Margarito a great boxer and an athlete? What about Kelly Pavlik? Carl Froch? Tomasz Adamek?

        We are talking about a sport in which a 45-year old man who fought in the 1960's and 70's came back to win the world heavyweight title via one punch knockout over a much superior "athlete".

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          #64
          as ive posted earlier

          every single sports in every sing positions, the greatest players have always come in modern times.

          otto graham,bart star,johnny unitas,< joe montana, john elway, payton, brady

          bird,magic,mj,hakeem, shaq,kobe,lebron>mikan,russell,wilt,cousy,west


          gary player, arnold palmer, sam snead jack nicklaus < tiger woods

          jesse owens..... carl lewis.........< usain bolt

          but the only sport that seems immune to this is boxing. Nostalgia & oldschool bias seems to guard & makes 20s,30s,50s,60s boxers immune to evolution & are hence rendered immortal & invincible.

          Ive seen henry armstrong fights, pacquiao & a dozen other fighters from the 80s & up would box circles around & eventually destroy him.

          HOW COME BOXING IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE?

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              #66
              Originally posted by TheGreatA
              Carnera and Baer too were easily destroyed by Joe Louis.

              Every era has their own crude but strong and durable fighters who might not be top class boxers but can win titles every once in a while with sheer strength. You can't win a 100m sprint by being tough but you can win a fight by being tough in boxing.

              Was Margarito a great boxer and an athlete? What about Kelly Pavlik? Carl Froch? Tomasz Adamek?

              We are talking about a sport in which a 45-year old man who fought in the 1960's and 70's came back to win the world heavyweight title via one punch knockout over a much superior "athlete".

              pleaseeeeeeeeee, Moorer has no chin .. Id like to see a fatt Foreman do that to Lennox Lewis. Or Tyson

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                #67
                Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                as ive posted earlier

                every single sports in every sing positions, the greatest players have always come in modern times.

                otto graham,bart star,johnny unitas,< joe montana, john elway, payton, brady

                bird,magic,mj,hakeem, shaq,kobe,lebron>mikan,russell,wilt,cousy,west


                gary player, arnold palmer, sam snead jack nicklaus < tiger woods

                jesse owens..... carl lewis.........< usain bolt

                but the only sport that seems immune to this is boxing. Nostalgia & oldschool bias seems to guard & makes 20s,30s,50s,60s boxers immune to evolution & are hence rendered immortal & invincible.

                Ive seen henry armstrong fights, pacquiao & a dozen other fighters from the 80s & up would box circles around & eventually destroy him.

                HOW COME BOXING IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE?
                Boxing isn't basketball or sprinting.

                Originally posted by !! 2Tough !!
                pleaseeeeeeeeee, Moorer has no chin .. Id like to see a fatt Foreman do that to Lennox Lewis. Or Tyson
                Exactly. You can have all the athleticism in the world, if you aren't tough enough you won't succeed in boxing.

                The chances are that a 45 year old Foreman wouldn't beat Lewis or Tyson, but a prime 25 year old Foreman would surely have a chance despite starting his career two or three decades before Tyson and Lewis did.

                Think about this, do you see the current group of heavyweights (with the possible exception of the Klitschko brothers) being better athletes than the two men in my signature, despite Tyson and Holyfield fighting in the 1980's and 1990's? A 46 year old Holyfield recently outboxed a current top 5 ranked heavyweight and was robbed of a decision.

                That would be unheard of in just about any other sport than boxing, a 46 year old man outclassing a top 5 rated opponent.
                Last edited by TheGreatA; 08-26-2009, 09:48 AM.

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                  #68
                  I forgot another sport where the all time greats have come in modern time;

                  tennis.

                  federer,sampras, agassi,becker>Rod Laver,bjorn borg,jimmy connors, john mccenroe, lendl



                  we can almost do this to all sports across the board almost every position.

                  Yet boxing greats of the 20,30s,40,50s, & 60s are invincible..... even though they have 10-20 losses. go figure.

                  Boxers from the 70s,80s,90s,00s,>>>>>20,30s,40,50s, & 60s.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TheGreatA
                    Boxing isn't basketball or sprinting.



                    Exactly. You can have all the athleticism in the world, if you aren't tough enough you won't succeed in boxing.

                    The chances are that a 45 year old Foreman wouldn't beat Lewis or Tyson, but a prime 25 year old Foreman would surely have a chance despite starting his career two or three decades before Tyson and Lewis did.

                    Think about this, do you see the current group of heavyweights (with the possible exception of the Klitschko brothers) being better athletes than the two men in my signature, despite Tyson and Holyfield fighting in the 1980's and 1990's? A 46 year old Holyfield just outboxed a current top 5 ranked heavyweight and was robbed of a decision.

                    That would be unheard of in just about any other sport than boxing, a 46 year old man outclassing a top 5 rated opponent.
                    and who was the modern day athlete who was top 5 ranked?? wait are you talking about Valuev hahahahahahahhahaha

                    also i never sed old school wouldnt beat modern on the odd occasion. foreman was LUCKY and he knows it

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                      I forgot another sport where the all time greats have come in modern time;

                      tennis.

                      federer,sampras, agassi,becker>Rod Laver,bjorn borg,jimmy connors, john mccenroe, lendl



                      we can almost do this to all sports across the board almost every position.

                      Yet boxing greats of the 20,30s,40,50s, & 60s are invincible..... even though they have 10-20 losses. go figure.

                      Boxers from the 70s,80s,90s,00s,>>>>>20,30s,40,50s, & 60s.
                      i dont understand your posts.. are you for or against modern boxers?

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