im sorry but pacquiao would wipe the floor with henry armstrong...
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i somewhat agree with the ts.
people should look at this objectively, and not get caught up with the nostalgia of old school fighters. problem is that "HARDCORE" boxing fans seems to have biased with old school fighters.
fact is, most modern fighters would most likely beat the old fighters based on modern training techniques.
also, some people make it seems like modern fighters would not ever get to the level of old school fighters. they were different eras, with different rules. you do not base a modern fighter's greatness with old school standards. it is unfair to the modern fighters.
i mean people ***** about how fighters from the 1920's has like 100+ wins while this guy has like 35 wins, when fighting 3-4 times a year is today's norm. how would the modern day fighter measure up with the old school guy? fight 20 times a year while most of his opponents fights 3 times a year? please.
appreciating what old school fighters did in their time is one thing. completely discrediting modern day fighters saying they can't measure up with them is another.Comment
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Carnera and Baer too were easily destroyed by Joe Louis.
Every era has their own crude but strong and durable fighters who might not be top class boxers but can win titles every once in a while with sheer strength. You can't win a 100m sprint by being tough but you can win a fight by being tough in boxing.
Was Margarito a great boxer and an athlete? What about Kelly Pavlik? Carl Froch? Tomasz Adamek?
We are talking about a sport in which a 45-year old man who fought in the 1960's and 70's came back to win the world heavyweight title via one punch knockout over a much superior "athlete".
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as ive posted earlier
every single sports in every sing positions, the greatest players have always come in modern times.
otto graham,bart star,johnny unitas,< joe montana, john elway, payton, brady
bird,magic,mj,hakeem, shaq,kobe,lebron>mikan,russell,wilt,cousy,west
gary player, arnold palmer, sam snead jack nicklaus < tiger woods
jesse owens..... carl lewis.........< usain bolt
but the only sport that seems immune to this is boxing. Nostalgia & oldschool bias seems to guard & makes 20s,30s,50s,60s boxers immune to evolution & are hence rendered immortal & invincible.
Ive seen henry armstrong fights, pacquiao & a dozen other fighters from the 80s & up would box circles around & eventually destroy him.
HOW COME BOXING IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE?Comment
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pleaseeeeeeeeee, Moorer has no chin .. Id like to see a fatt Foreman do that to Lennox Lewis. Or TysonCarnera and Baer too were easily destroyed by Joe Louis.
Every era has their own crude but strong and durable fighters who might not be top class boxers but can win titles every once in a while with sheer strength. You can't win a 100m sprint by being tough but you can win a fight by being tough in boxing.
Was Margarito a great boxer and an athlete? What about Kelly Pavlik? Carl Froch? Tomasz Adamek?
We are talking about a sport in which a 45-year old man who fought in the 1960's and 70's came back to win the world heavyweight title via one punch knockout over a much superior "athlete".

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Boxing isn't basketball or sprinting.as ive posted earlier
every single sports in every sing positions, the greatest players have always come in modern times.
otto graham,bart star,johnny unitas,< joe montana, john elway, payton, brady
bird,magic,mj,hakeem, shaq,kobe,lebron>mikan,russell,wilt,cousy,west
gary player, arnold palmer, sam snead jack nicklaus < tiger woods
jesse owens..... carl lewis.........< usain bolt
but the only sport that seems immune to this is boxing. Nostalgia & oldschool bias seems to guard & makes 20s,30s,50s,60s boxers immune to evolution & are hence rendered immortal & invincible.
Ive seen henry armstrong fights, pacquiao & a dozen other fighters from the 80s & up would box circles around & eventually destroy him.
HOW COME BOXING IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE?
Exactly. You can have all the athleticism in the world, if you aren't tough enough you won't succeed in boxing.
The chances are that a 45 year old Foreman wouldn't beat Lewis or Tyson, but a prime 25 year old Foreman would surely have a chance despite starting his career two or three decades before Tyson and Lewis did.
Think about this, do you see the current group of heavyweights (with the possible exception of the Klitschko brothers) being better athletes than the two men in my signature, despite Tyson and Holyfield fighting in the 1980's and 1990's? A 46 year old Holyfield recently outboxed a current top 5 ranked heavyweight and was robbed of a decision.
That would be unheard of in just about any other sport than boxing, a 46 year old man outclassing a top 5 rated opponent.Last edited by TheGreatA; 08-26-2009, 09:48 AM.Comment
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I forgot another sport where the all time greats have come in modern time;
tennis.
federer,sampras, agassi,becker>Rod Laver,bjorn borg,jimmy connors, john mccenroe, lendl
we can almost do this to all sports across the board almost every position.
Yet boxing greats of the 20,30s,40,50s, & 60s are invincible..... even though they have 10-20 losses. go figure.
Boxers from the 70s,80s,90s,00s,>>>>>20,30s,40,50s, & 60s.Comment
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and who was the modern day athlete who was top 5 ranked?? wait are you talking about Valuev hahahahahahahhahahaBoxing isn't basketball or sprinting.
Exactly. You can have all the athleticism in the world, if you aren't tough enough you won't succeed in boxing.
The chances are that a 45 year old Foreman wouldn't beat Lewis or Tyson, but a prime 25 year old Foreman would surely have a chance despite starting his career two or three decades before Tyson and Lewis did.
Think about this, do you see the current group of heavyweights (with the possible exception of the Klitschko brothers) being better athletes than the two men in my signature, despite Tyson and Holyfield fighting in the 1980's and 1990's? A 46 year old Holyfield just outboxed a current top 5 ranked heavyweight and was robbed of a decision.
That would be unheard of in just about any other sport than boxing, a 46 year old man outclassing a top 5 rated opponent.
also i never sed old school wouldnt beat modern on the odd occasion. foreman was LUCKY and he knows itComment
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i dont understand your posts.. are you for or against modern boxers?I forgot another sport where the all time greats have come in modern time;
tennis.
federer,sampras, agassi,becker>Rod Laver,bjorn borg,jimmy connors, john mccenroe, lendl
we can almost do this to all sports across the board almost every position.
Yet boxing greats of the 20,30s,40,50s, & 60s are invincible..... even though they have 10-20 losses. go figure.
Boxers from the 70s,80s,90s,00s,>>>>>20,30s,40,50s, & 60s.Comment
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