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  • #21
    Originally posted by two_guns View Post
    arce would kill donaire.so would montiel.good job donaire,hope you get to fight one of these dudes.i'll be rooting for my countrymen though.
    Montiel is so inconsistent that it's nearly impossible to handicap that fight. But for the moment, I can see him being favored over Nonito (though not by a lot).

    I have a different opinion on Arce, but I will explain in my next post...

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    • #22
      O no....Donaire didn't win by super K.O in 2 rounds....Lets see if the ring drops him 2 spots like they did Miguel Cotto.


      Bullshyt.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Post
        doanire's performance is not bad at all....far from ugly.
        it is his first foray in the heavier div.....
        he fought a heavy guy who even faked being "weigh-drained" to throw him off in his fyt plan.
        his defensive flaws surfaced...it can be corrected along the way.
        good thing he's got the chin somehow, and stamina not to buckle in the late rounds.
        good overall performance....
        i wonder how true and how serious is his "injured hand"...
        it happened to him not just once or twice....that's bad!
        All due respect, but that part is way off. Donaire's only real time at flyweight was that spent as champ and maybe one or two other fights. He spent most of his career at super flyweight or higher. It was a return to super flyweight, not his debut, not even close.

        And I don't put much stock in the heavier opponent theory. You're right, Concepcion was hardly weight drained, but if Donaire and his camp couldn't see that at the weigh-in, then it's impossible to say just what they were looking at. Dude was just out and out fat.

        While on paper I'd pick Nonito to massacre Arce, what happens when on fight night he's up against a guy who's now probably 20 lb. heavier than he was at the weigh-in.

        Donaire did what he had to do to win, but IMO it was the least watchable he's looked in quite a while. It's the exception, not the norm, so it's no big deal (hence my "ugly but effective" reference). But I just didn't find it to be his finest hour

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
          Nonito did good fighting a foe that came so heavy and cleary bigger than him. As I always fear with Donaire he does have hand problems especially with the left. Hopefully it will heal and he doesn't change his fighting style. Wasn't a pretty fight but he overcame all the adverstity that he had in front of him.
          This is exactly how I felt about the fight last night. Maybe I just did a poor job of articulating that point. But I agree with you 100%.

          The only part I disagree on is that I don't believe he fought the way he did because Concepcion was bigger (fatther). To me, it looked like he (and his camp) believed this guy was easy pickings, that if Arce could stop him in nine, they'd pick him apart and get the job done much earlier. He started out with every intention of knocking him out, but went from that to boxing and lateral movement the moment he realized it was going to be a long night.

          That was the only part that bothered me, though his hand injury atones for that (and I have no reason to believe he faked it, in response to an earlier post asking that question).

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          • #25
            good win by Donaire......I was expecting more from him though...lets see that in his next fight

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JakeNDaBox View Post
              This is exactly how I felt about the fight last night. Maybe I just did a poor job of articulating that point. But I agree with you 100%.

              The only part I disagree on is that I don't believe he fought the way he did because Concepcion was bigger (fatther). To me, it looked like he (and his camp) believed this guy was easy pickings, that if Arce could stop him in nine, they'd pick him apart and get the job done much earlier. He started out with every intention of knocking him out, but went from that to boxing and lateral movement the moment he realized it was going to be a long night.

              That was the only part that bothered me, though his hand injury atones for that (and I have no reason to believe he faked it, in response to an earlier post asking that question).
              ok, i agree that donaire did spend a lot of time at superfly!!

              but the change in tactics from brawling to boxing and lateral movements is called for...it was necessary.
              donaire did feel concepcion's power on the 2nd.
              did donaire injured his hand in the first?? in rd 2??
              therefore his early adjustment is a very smart move.!!
              he can no longer ko rafael with an injured hand....he got to box and win on points...which he easily did!!

              bottomline for me...my opinion....is that donaire fought a good intelligent fyt.
              he will definitely be a very good boxer.
              but he needs to work on his flaws.... a lot showed and were readily noted!!

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              • #27
                I've never thought he's that good and will never will unless he stops talking and concentrate on improving his craft. He dreams big and always talking he's the next big thing but let the people see that and not carry yourself by your mouth. I also doesn't like that he always makes excuses and always blaming a hand injury after the fight. If this is the case then let a doctor fix it and let it heal so no excuses next time.

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                • #28
                  I didn't see the fight but I hope that Nonito can keep drawing in the fans. People shouldn't be so hard on him if he outboxed a way bigger opponent.

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                  • #29
                    He's making so hard on himself by creating so much expectations when he talks about knocking out his opponent and that he's got more offense and faster and this and that. I hope he learns by listening and watching his mistakes rather than being too ****y.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by kentox View Post
                      some things i want to point on this fight for
                      Nonito Donaire.

                      1. he can handle pressure fighters
                      2. he has the stamina to box for 12 rounds.
                      3. a good chin, knowing that conception has power and may come at super bantam weight at fight night.

                      Cong**** to Donaire and Millegen . 2 bad bernabe is on a blood rush that he didnt heared the bell rang.
                      you might want to add he likes fighting hand picked fighters. like fighting fighters that he has a height and reach advantage. once he steps up to real comp he is gonna be chopp liver.

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