Did Roy Jones ever learn the basics

[STILL_DETOX]

my basics u mean defense, then yes

[illmatickid]

see the thing is, i think roy DID learn the basics but he was so naturally gifted that he relied on his gifts anyway, i say this because whenever he would be a commentator on hbo fights he always knew what would happen from a technical standpoint.. so yea

[lparm]

see the thing is, i think roy DID learn the basics but he was so naturally gifted that he relied on his gifts anyway, i say this because whenever he would be a commentator on hbo fights he always knew what would happen from a technical standpoint.. so yea

If he did learn them they why did he neglect to use them as he got older when he needed more than just flashes of his former quickness.

[Dan...]

If he did learn them they why did he neglect to use them as he got older when he needed more than just flashes of his former quickness.

It isn't that he "neglected to use them", its just that he wasn't anywhere near as good a fighter when he lost a great deal of his natural abilities.

A great number of fighters have "learnt the basics" as you say. They aren't all undefeated HOFers.

[lettdragon]

he never had em how could he use them.he was a speed kills fighter.

[illmatickid]

If he did learn them they why did he neglect to use them as he got older when he needed more than just flashes of his former quickness.

he does use his jab alot now that hes older, and even when he was in his prime he knew what fighter the jab would be effective against...

like when he fought vinny pazienza, he constantly jabbed pazienze and paz couldnt land anythin on roy because roy kept his distance with his jab, same with the john ruiz fight, and few other fights..

besides if roy didnt learn the basics, its not as if those gifts would have been anythin without the basics, those reflexes and quickness were polished by years of training conditioning and practice, roy sr. used to make roy jr. fight people twice his age with one hand tied behind his back, and roy sr. said he did that so that he took away roy's best hand and forced roy to use the jab

[krispy kreme]

Every serious fighter learns the basics, especially one that is pushed as hard as Jones Jr was as a kid. I think Jones just ignored the boxing fundamentals because his opposition was so outmatched. The style worked for him so much as a professional, so he just stuck by it.

[IMDAZED]

You don't accomplish what Roy Jones did just by being athletic. Ask Zab Judah.

[tito yuca]

Ofcourse he did, he just developed from the basics into something else.

Exactly, how can anyone say this:

He never learnt how to hook properly.

This cat landed 8 consecutive hooks on dudes back in the day!

He had an awkward and unique style, but he had to learn the basics for years in order to develop that. If it was just quickness and reflexes, then Michael Jordan would be the best boxer of all-time.

[krispy kreme]

If it was just quickness and reflexes, then Michael Jordan would be the best boxer of all-time.

True, true...