Don't deny it, PBF's bad guy persona is good for boxing

[koboy]

Marketing genius would be a relatively boring person, consciously doing something out of character to sell a fight.

Do you know Floyd personally? How do you know it's not out of character. You don't think dancing and wrestling is not out of character for Floyd. You really believed he wanted to win dancing with the stars or that he could really beat The Big Show.

E.G. wrestling persona's like The Rock. Do you think Rock really acts like that in real life? No, he made it up and maybe he even had help backstage with his catchphrases.

Yeah, Floyd really has a chance against The Big Show. The whole WWE is an act. So why isn't Floyd on WWE, one? I'm sure this is not Vince McMahon's idea. He could care less for a boxer to be on WWE. It was all Floyd's idea and he probably paid McMahon to do this, as well.

Floyd on the other hand is just Floyd. It's the people behind the scenes who marketed 24/7, not Floyd. Floyd just played his part in the 24/7 soap opera, which wasn't hard to do, since he played himself. You mean his act.

Floyd's true genius is in his fighting, hit and not get his, his defense is genius.
I never denied this.

On the other stuff, lets not spitshine his **** like he is Vince McMahon.

No, he's not Vince McMahon, but can you name a boxer who has promoted himself as well as PBF lately. None.

PBF is the smartest man in boxing.

[Bhopreign]

manny could easily get 15 mill with marquez in a rubber match, maybe more. what about the fight selling out, wheres the marketing genius in that. Supposedly, good marketing results in selling tickets. He's making his money through GBP and proposed ticket sales and ppv sales. If the fight does under 400K then his marketing doucehbag ploy failed. We'll have to see.

I dont see any valid reports that the fight wasnt doing well, but to the contrary, Schaeffer said the fight was selling very well before it was postponed. Unless you can show me the promoters sell list where it wasnt doing well, I hardly believe any internet writer who speaks otherwise. Besides who cares if 5 people showed up, Floyd would still get paid the 15 million dollars he is guaranteed. The fight isnt supposed to do 400k, it isnt considered a huge fight because Marquez doesnt fight at this weight normally, 300k would even be good, it takes two.

[koboy]

I dont see any valid reports that the fight wasnt doing well, but to the contrary, Schaeffer said the fight was selling very well before it was postponed. Unless you can show me the promoters sell list where it wasnt doing well, I hardly believe any internet writer who speaks otherwise. Besides who cares if 5 people showed up, Floyd would still get paid the 15 million dollars he is guaranteed. The fight isnt supposed to do 400k, it isnt considered a huge fight because Marquez doesnt fight at this weight normally, 300k would even be good, it takes two.

This is besides the point, though. The fact that Marquez, possibly the best fighter in the world, called out a retired fighter who will probably get 10 - 15 mil for the fight is amazing. PBF put himself in the picture even while he was retired. Fighters were still talking about fighting him like he was still active. He planted the seeds and now he's raking them in.

[shogunn]

I dont see any valid reports that the fight wasnt doing well, but to the contrary, Schaeffer said the fight was selling very well before it was postponed. Unless you can show me the promoters sell list where it wasnt doing well, I hardly believe any internet writer who speaks otherwise. Besides who cares if 5 people showed up, Floyd would still get paid the 15 million dollars he is guaranteed. The fight isnt supposed to do 400k, it isnt considered a huge fight because Marquez doesnt fight at this weight normally, 300k would even be good, it takes two.

if 5 people showed up that wouldve been a FAILED marketing strategy. He's making 15million through contracts, and I dont know if that's gauranteed. The point isnt whether he's making the money in this 1 fight, it's whether his douchebag persona sells tickets.

If there are lackluster sales, and ONLY 5 people show up, I gaurantee he would not get anywhere near 15 million for his next fight.

[Danny Gunz]

no it just encourages more boxers to fight for money rather then the fans

[JM1]

This man is a marketing genius. He knew that if he didn't play the heel, no one would watch his fights. He took to the part like fish to water and has never looked back. He is actually a professional inside the ring and very gracious in post fight conferences.

His act is unique and generates alot of interest in his fights. Half of the people who bought his fights probably wanted to see him lose and ko'd. And the more he keeps winning, the more fans want to see him lose. Brillant.

PBF is the smartest man in boxing.

yes its good for boxing. floyd makes people hate him and with that being said, his nuthuggers are idiots cause when someone is hating on floyd they tend to get mad given that floyd wants people to hate him

[sycomantz]

He wouldn't be fighting JMM if he was scared of Manny. I think Manny's an easier fight for Floyd than JMM. I didn't say he was going to win against Manny, but I think it would be easier than fighting JMM, who is one of the smartest boxer inside the ring.

Let's not confuse PBF's cherrypicking opponents with fear. It's just being smart and make the most money at the shortest period of time. Isn't this what we all strive for? Early retirement. Smartest in boxing, I tell you.

koboy is dropping knowledge on you fools.

good post koboy...keep them up

[sycomantz]

Yes you're right, BUT he didn't comeback from retirement just for JMM. He picked JMM because he was Pacquiao's biggest foe.

This is the problem with some of you, JMM gave Pacquiao fits in both fights. JMM is on Pacquiao's level and has proven it. Mayweather is using Marquez as a bargaining chip to negotiate a fight against Pacquiao. He can say, I beat Marquez more convincingly than Pac did. He also can use the PPV numbers and compare them to JMM-Pacquiao PPV's, however that's not going so well.

yep and to get in the heads of Pac andhis camp.

its chess not checkers.

Floyd has it all played out

[shogunn]

does anyone really think floyd is smart? same people ever hear him speak?

[sycomantz]

WORD...this is what i been tryna tell people
his whole "bad guy" persona is just an act to help sell his fights
if u look at his fights with arturo gatti, how much **** they were talkin
and then
after the fight mayweather was brought to tears because he couldnt believe he beat gatti, same with the ricky hatton fight,

the more people i see not liking him because of his behavior outside of the ring, the more he looks like a genius to me..because APPARENTLY its workin

anybody who seen floyd in his early days would know that floyd really isnt what he portrays himself in the media's eyes as

those arent tears of misbelief. those are tears of success and a happy ending to all the hard work he put in to preparing ad fighting the fight

which shows he never underestimates any of his opponents which is why hes so great...b/c his work ethic and discipline is unmatched