Is Mayweather troubled by southpaws?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    corley, mitchell and judah are all 2nd rate southpaws.

    corley and judah have a few moments against floyd but that was it.
    Corley was a pretty damn good fighter when he faced Floyd and Judah was on point that night so I would not call either second rate.

    Mitchell was second rate by the time he faced Floyd.

    Still Floyd should have learned something from all those experiances, no matter how they rate in anyones book~

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      #42
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      yes, floyd struggles w/ southpaws... who doesn't?
      Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins

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      • Pullcounter
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bhopreign
        2nd rate? Who are first rate skillwise?
        pac, whitaker, winky, etc... these are southpaws that find ways to win, not lose.

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          #44
          Originally posted by RisAri0
          Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins
          he had problems against calzaghe tho.

          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          Corley was a pretty damn good fighter when he faced Floyd and Judah was on point that night so I would not call either second rate.
          both are second rate. corley and judah find ways to lose, not win. let's be serious here people. neither corley nor judah belong next pernell whitaker (who is a first rate southpaw).

          Mitchell was second rate by the time he faced Floyd.

          Still Floyd should have learned something from all those experiances, no matter how they rate in anyones book~
          floyd has beaten all the southpaws he's ever met. he must be doing something right.

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            #45
            PBF 2nd opponent Southpaw Reggie Sanders makes PBF looks ordinary. The decision was bood by the Crowd that time. PBF really bad there for 4 rds. I thought it was a draw. ESPN Classic play it once in a while. Check it out.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              he had problems against calzaghe tho.


              both are second rate. corley and judah find ways to lose, not win. let's be serious here people. neither corley nor judah belong next pernell whitaker (who is a first rate southpaw).


              floyd has beaten all the southpaws he's ever met. he must be doing something right.
              everyone would or did have problems with calzaghe...and thats 1 out of 12 is it?..the southpaws B-Hop dominated.. and B-Hop has mentioned in countless interviews that he prefers fighting southpaws, its his specialty..

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                #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter


                both are second rate. corley and judah find ways to lose, not win. let's be serious here people. neither corley nor judah belong next pernell whitaker (who is a first rate southpaw).


                floyd has beaten all the southpaws he's ever met. he must be doing something right.
                First of all, you don't need to be Sweet Pea to be a first rate left handed fighter and to me both Corley and Judah were world class lefties so to me that is first rate.

                If you want to have some crazy standard go ahead, but to me that is not really dealing in reality.

                Floyd has some issues with lefties more so then orthodox fighters anyways, but I think that Floyd has gained valuable experiance against lefties so he should be able to do better against them. I also think the issue is kind of overblown but yea Floyd does have some issues with lefties but to me they don't seem that crucial.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Pacdbest
                  PBF 2nd opponent Southpaw Reggie Sanders makes PBF looks ordinary. The decision was bood by the Crowd that time. PBF really bad there for 4 rds. I thought it was a draw. ESPN Classic play it once in a while. Check it out.
                  That HAS to be the fight my friend told me about. You know I have Floyd's career collection right here and I've never watched his early fights but I was told he had serious trouble with one around the start of his career. I'm about to start digging. I'm not sure Pacquiao will be his Antonio Tarver, however. No one else I could think of...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                    He seems to be more aggressive (therefore, hittable) against southpaws.

                    The shot that Corley landed that stunned PBF in round 4 came at a strange angle. Sort of an overhand right that landed with an unusual part of the glove, then Corley followed up with a straight left. Judah landed with the counter left uppercut and straight left in the early going, then again Judah does that against just about everyone.

                    Many orthodox fighters have trouble with southpaws.

                    One problem is that your right glove is usually attached to the right side of your chin to fend off left hooks from orthodox fighters. Against lefties, the angle on the left hand is different, and sometimes goes through the guard. Obviously you see Pacquiao do this quite a bit.

                    On the other hand, jabs are often hard to land against lefties (although Morales landed it consistently against Pacquiao the first time around) and left hooks and straight right hands are vital. Mayweather has perhaps the most effective straight right hand in the sport, and his left hook is effective too. Actually, Mayweather has just about every punch in the book.

                    Yeah I think it is speed that troubles Floyd more than anything, but like Cotto, he has a way of neutralizing that speed once he adapts.

                    I'm not a fan of Floyd because he's a jerk, but he can set up traps like no other. It is those little things he does in there that makes his opponents lose their head. It is almost like once in a while he will give his opponent something, then take it away. Sometimes he will give nothing at all, leaving his opponent frustrated.

                    His only weakness is inactivity in there which could leave him vulnerable to getting out pointed. Other than that, he has to be the most frustrating opponent ever.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      That HAS to be the fight my friend told me about. You know I have Floyd's career collection right here and I've never watched his early fights but I was told he had serious trouble with one around the start of his career. I'm about to start digging. I'm not sure Pacquiao will be his Antonio Tarver, however. No one else I could think of...
                      Judah's beating PBF for 5 rds also.

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