Is Mayweather troubled by southpaws?

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  • sunny31
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    #11
    yes he is just like every other fighter (with a few exceptions), it is normal. I think this is a big factor why pac has a pretty good chance to pull off the upset.

    He was caught a few times against corley, but corley is just a lower class of fighter, zab doesn't have a consistent work rate and has always come up short against the very best. If manny is firing on all cylinders he will win imo. But he may lose to cotto first so we may not see it.

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    • leonthegee
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      #12
      Originally posted by LA BAD BOYtake2
      SHARMBA rocked him at the end of first or second round with clean left hand so
      if boxing GOD Pacman connects it will be lights out party over!
      And he lost first five rounds against JUDAH.
      lost the 1st 5 rounds u must be on crack. floyds straight right left hook combo is all he needs to beat a one dementional fighter like manny. 116-112 8 rounds to four money may wins. if manny can go the distance.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #13
        yes, floyd struggles w/ southpaws... who doesn't?

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        • IMDAZED
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          #14
          Originally posted by STILL_DETOX
          wat do u think?
          I believe so. I've told this story before but I will tell what I remember. I once had a conversation several years ago with an old matchmaker - probably the most knowledgable person I know - and we were discussing what would have been if Floyd ever met Judah at 140. His response was that Floyd would problems because he had big problems with lefties. I thought this was a strange assertion until I saw how much trouble he had early on with Chop Chop Corley. Then, of course, the Judah fight.

          I suspect everyone has troubles with lefties early on and Floyd is no different. But he's been tagged very early by lefties in the fights I've seen - they have definitely gotten his attention.

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          • Spacey1991
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            #15
            Not much more than other people, lets face it most guys struggle with Southpaws at least a little bit... its just one of those things where, Floyd is a slow starter as it is cause he analyzes his opponent... that's why he usually picks up from round 3-4 onwards, the fact that they are southpaw makes it just look more significant.

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            • Spacey1991
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              #16
              Originally posted by LA BAD BOYtake2
              SHARMBA rocked him at the end of first or second round with clean left hand so
              if boxing GOD Pacman connects it will be lights out party over!
              And he lost first five rounds against JUDAH.
              Pacquiao was rocked by JMM a few times...

              Plus, the Judah fight I would say 3-4 rounds... the rest was all Floyd.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #17
                Originally posted by Spacey1991
                Not much more than other people, lets face it most guys struggle with Southpaws at least a little bit... its just one of those things where, Floyd is a slow starter as it is cause he analyzes his opponent... that's why he usually picks up from round 3-4 onwards, the fact that they are southpaw makes it just look more significant.
                I'm not sure I agree Floyd is a slow starter. That wasn't the case when he was young but his slow starts in his most recent bouts were, to me, a sign that he was slowing - whether it was age or the weight.

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                • Jim Jeffries
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                  #18
                  Well the shoulder roll is not as effective against southpaws, so yes. But most everyone seems to have some degree of difficulty against them.

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                    He seems to be more aggressive (therefore, hittable) against southpaws.

                    The shot that Corley landed that stunned PBF in round 4 came at a strange angle. Sort of an overhand right that landed with an unusual part of the glove, then Corley followed up with a straight left. Judah landed with the counter left uppercut and straight left in the early going, then again Judah does that against just about everyone.

                    Many orthodox fighters have trouble with southpaws.

                    One problem is that your right glove is usually attached to the right side of your chin to fend off left hooks from orthodox fighters. Against lefties, the angle on the left hand is different, and sometimes goes through the guard. Obviously you see Pacquiao do this quite a bit.

                    On the other hand, jabs are often hard to land against lefties (although Morales landed it consistently against Pacquiao the first time around) and left hooks and straight right hands are vital. Mayweather has perhaps the most effective straight right hand in the sport, and his left hook is effective too. Actually, Mayweather has just about every punch in the book.

                    Agree with this particularly bolded part.

                    He changed his tactics and took it to Mitchell, Corley and Judah.

                    Judah countered him and made him touch down if i remember right, as TS said Corley caught him also.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      I'm not sure I agree Floyd is a slow starter. That wasn't the case when he was young but his slow starts in his most recent bouts were, to me, a sign that he was slowing - whether it was age or the weight.
                      I think its cuz he tries to figure his opponent out...back in the day he was so much better than his opponents he could jump on them.

                      The weight has slowed him down tho...

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