Is Mayweather troubled by southpaws?

[The Gambler1981]

ok so you are arguing semantics...

bottomline, corley and judah are not top 20 all time southpaws.

bottomline, corley and judah gave floyd problems, but floyd overcame them.

Well I would never say that they were, but to me that is not a requirement to be called first rate just being world class is enough. Who was a better southpaw then Corley at 140 at that time. Who was a better southpaw then Judah at 147 at the time of that fight. It really is not that big of a deal though because we obviously look at the term "first rate" differently.

I would not say Corley gave Floyd a lot of problem he caught Floyd once or twice and Floyd otherwise beat the **** out of him. Judah did give Floyd problems though.

[Pullcounter]

I dont think he has trouble with southpaws, PBF doesnt really get going until the later rounds, Corley and Judah are fast starters..And Judah was to fast for PBF in the first 5 rounds, but once PBF feeled them out it was over he picked both of them apart, plus he has a lighting quick straight right which is the perfect weapon againts any southpaw.

again this is semantics.

floyd did not simply steamroll either from round 1 to 12. that means they gave floyd problems. but all you need to know is that floyd still beat them.

[Pullcounter]

Well I would never say that they were, but to me that is not a requirement to be called first rate just being world class is enough.

bottomline corley and judah are not top 20 all time southpaws.

Who was a better southpaw then Corley at 140 at that time.

doesn't matter, corley is not even in the top 50 all time southpaws.

Who was a better southpaw then Judah at 147 at the time of that fight.

doesn't mattter, judah is a born loser. talented, but born to lose. I mean C'MON he lost to baldomir.

It really is not that big of a deal though because we obviously look at the term "first rate" differently.

like i said, semantics. but neither are great southpaws, merely good southpaws.

I would not say Corley gave Floyd a lot of problem he caught Floyd once or twice and Floyd otherwise beat the **** out of him.

i never said corley gave floyd A LOT of problems. but he did give floyd problems.

Judah did give Floyd problems though.

he did, but floyd is a great boxer that is why he overcame them.

[The Gambler1981]

yea i meant floyd...but both now that u mentioned cotto...just realized that both opponents both troubled floyd n cotto...which can make an argument of how manny can finish a hurt or stunned opponents better than anyone in the biz right now

I wouldn't agree with that argument, although Manny is a better finisher then either Judah or Corley. I would not call him the best finisher in the sport though to me that would be over doing it a shade.

[The Gambler1981]

bottomline corley and judah are not top 20 all time southpaws.


doesn't matter, corley is not even in the top 50 all time southpaws.


doesn't mattter, judah is a born loser. talented, but born to lose. I mean C'MON he lost to baldomir.


like i said, semantics. but neither are great southpaws, merely good southpaws.


i never said corley gave floyd A LOT of problems. but he did give floyd problems.


he did, but floyd is a great boxer that is why he overcame them.

Straight up to me they are first rate lefties and nothing you have said has changed my mind even a little. In an all-time sence sure those guys do not really stack up as great, but in the world of boxing that existed they were amongst the best lefties around the weights Floyd was fighting to me that is first rate.

[RisAri0]

I wouldn't agree with that argument, although Manny is a better finisher then either Judah or Corley. I would not call him the best finisher in the sport though to me that would be over doing it a shade.

who else then?...shane perhaps?

[Pullcounter]

Straight up to me they are first rate lefties and nothing you have said has changed my mind even a little. In an all-time sence sure those guys do not really stack up as great, but in the world of boxing that existed they were amongst the best lefties around the weights Floyd was fighting to me that is first rate.

again semantics... but neither guys are all time great southpaws

[Burner]

Floyd beat the **** out of every southpaw hes ever faced..........

Sooooo no.

[The Gambler1981]

again semantics... but neither guys are all time great southpaws

A fighter can only fight who is around at their time, unless Floyd has a time machine he can not go and fight any of those lefties because none of them really existed at 140 or 147 at the time he fought there, so in the real world that existed Floyd beat two of the top lefties around. First-rate, you can spout all the meaningless stuff about them not being great at an all-time level but during the early part of this decade they were amongst the best southpaws in the sport.

[MindBat]

Floyd is an intelligent fighter.

If they ever meet, Manny's plan will be to start fast with 'in and out' darting
tactics and combination strikes from various angles.

I'm starting to think he may even win the first six rounds, then start to slow down as Floyd catches him with counters.

It'll be great if they both show up at 100%.