What Does a COTTO Win over MANNY PACQUIAO Mean?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #151
    Originally posted by Horus
    I know you do...thats the point
    Of course I do. I just hope you aren't trying to compare this to Mayweather-Hatton because the two scenarios aren't the same and neither is the caliber of victory.

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    • Horus
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      #152
      Originally posted by Danny Gunz
      The fact that you are trying to compare pacquiao and hatton as equal fighters is laughable...

      Personally i had no problem with floyd fighting ricky, it made sense at the time and floyd won impressively but with that said pacquiao is in another league at this point in his career then where ricky was two years ago.
      laughable?

      Ricky Hatton was undefeated
      Ricky Hatton was lineal champion at 140
      Ricky Hatton was the former WBA Welterweight champion of the world
      Ricky Hatton was P4P #5 in the world
      and it laughable to compare the 2007 version of Ricky Hatton to Pacquaio.

      right

      I am not saying Hatton is better than Pacquaio..but how is it laughable to compare the two... when they are in similar circumstances..and in similar positions ..

      do you understand what comparisons are about...?

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      • Pullcounter
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        #153
        Originally posted by Horus
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        What Does a Cotto Win over Manny Pacquiao Mean?
        Does it mean:
        2.That he beat a fighter that didnt belong at Welterweight?
        its gonna be a big win for cotto regardless because of the exposure and payday, but it only proves that pac doesn't belong in the ring against a guy that can out weigh him by 10+ lbs on fight night.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Horus
          laughable?

          Ricky Hatton was undefeated
          Ricky Hatton was lineal champion at 140
          Ricky Hatton was the former WBA Welterweight champion of the world
          Ricky Hatton was P4P #5 in the world
          and it laughable to compare the 2007 version of Ricky Hatton to Pacquaio.

          right

          I am not saying Hatton is better than Pacquaio..but how is it laughable to compare the two... when they are in similar circumstances..and in similar positions ..

          do you understand what comparisons are about...?
          Yeah we do, and you're full of ****, Horus.

          Ricky Hatton had already moved up to welter and barely sc****d by a lower rung 147lber. Manny Pacquiao is an ATG, HOF'er who is currently ranked the best in the world. The only way Hatton sniffs Canastota is if Joe Calzaghe invites him.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Horus
            Once again it can not be a great win...
            because the fight is at Welterweight.
            Manny Pacquiao is not a welterweight..

            So at best it is a mediocre win..
            because cotto would have beat a blown up lightweight or junior welterweight that night
            You may think that, but history will show that it will be a big win for either fighter. Making it seem as if Cotto will look bad if he loses because Pacquiao's coming up in weight is pointless because Pacquiao's already fought at Welterweight..not against the best Welterweight, nonetheless he fought in the division. If he now fights one of the tops in the division and wins, all of a sudden its Cotto's bad? What about Pacquiao just being that good?

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            • Horus
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              #156
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Yeah we do, and you're full of ****, Horus.

              Ricky Hatton had already moved up to welter and barely sc****d by a lower rung 147lber. Manny Pacquiao is an ATG, HOF'er who is currently ranked the best in the world. The only way Hatton sniffs Canastota is if Joe Calzaghe invites him.
              Being compared to somebody doesnt mean you have to be equals...

              In that case, Why do you guys compare Cotto to Mayweather
              Why do you guys compare Margarito to Mayweather
              Why do you guys compare Williams to Mayweather
              Why do you guys compare Berto to Mayweather
              Why do you guys compare Mosley to Mayweather


              None of them come close to Mayweather.
              Even Pacquiao is not an equal to Mayweather....

              But you compare these fighters to each other because at some point
              they were in similar positions weather it is weight class, rankings, etc...
              and in similar circumstances weather it be they fighting the same fighter somebody else has fought.

              Comparisons doesnt anything to do about being equal or better than somebody.

              Comparison has to do with linking things together that share similarities..

              learn some **** in your life before you want to question comparisons.

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                #157
                Originally posted by Horus
                Being compared to somebody doesnt mean you have to be equals...

                In that case, Why do you guys compare Cotto to Mayweather
                Why do you guys compare Margarito to Mayweather
                Why do you guys compare Williams to Mayweather
                Why do you guys compare Berto to Mayweather
                Why do you guys compare Mosley to Mayweather


                None of them come close to Mayweather.
                Even Pacquiao is not an equal to Mayweather....

                But you compare these fighters to each other because at some point
                they were in similar positions weather it is weight class, rankings, etc...
                and in similar circumstances weather it be they fighting the same fighter somebody else has fought.

                Comparisons doesnt anything to do about being equal or better than somebody.

                Comparison has to do with linking things together that share similarities..

                learn some **** in your life before you want to question comparisons.
                GTFOH. You're so transparent your posts should come with a bottle of Windex. Beating Pac is a great win for Cotto and a far better one than Floyd's win over Hatton.

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                • Danny Gunz
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  laughable?

                  Ricky Hatton was undefeated
                  Ricky Hatton was lineal champion at 140
                  Ricky Hatton was the former WBA Welterweight champion of the world
                  Ricky Hatton was P4P #5 in the world
                  and it laughable to compare the 2007 version of Ricky Hatton to Pacquaio.

                  right

                  I am not saying Hatton is better than Pacquaio..but how is it laughable to compare the two... when they are in similar circumstances..and in similar positions ..

                  do you understand what comparisons are about...?
                  As of now Ricky hatton has been exposed as only a one dimensional brawler with no defense and a horrible chin, Pacquiao is best fighter in the world pound for pound and the most dynamic with many tools.

                  Saying pacquiao is just another 140 lb fighter as hatton was isnt fair to him. Hatton at one point was a very good junior welterweight but he was never as good of a fighter as pacquiao was.

                  Your recognition of titles and records just blinds your basic logic. Just cause hatton held all of those titles does not make him a great fighter

                  And i understand comparisons you are just talking about hatton and pac as if they are equals

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                  • Horus
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Ravishing
                    You may think that, but history will show that it will be a big win for either fighter. Making it seem as if Cotto will look bad if he loses because Pacquiao's coming up in weight is pointless because Pacquiao's already fought at Welterweight..not against the best Welterweight, nonetheless he fought in the division. If he now fights one of the tops in the division and wins, all of a sudden its Cotto's bad? What about Pacquiao just being that good?
                    Good logic...but this logic doesnt work on boxingscene...
                    in which no fighter should fight fighters bigger than or smaller than them..

                    you must understand the logic before you understand the arguments

                    understand ?

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                    • elchurro420
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                      #160
                      neither, it means that packy fought a non-dehydrated prime welter

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