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  • madsweeney
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    Marquez is slower than Cotto. And Mosley is nearly as fast as Pacquiao. Timing and accuracy can beat speed.
    Don't necessarily agree that JMM is slower than Cotto (definately not in foot speed) but your observation is kinda right. Timing and accuracy can trump speed, however JMM has better of both than Cotto IMO and Cotto's style is made for Pac's.

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #52
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Lol as if you haven't created DOZENS of threads hating on Pac!
      LOl

      Show all the Threads I have made hating on pac.

      Please do!!!!!

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      • ELPacman
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        #53
        Let's not forget Cotto was able to take Shane's speed away with his timing. He also surprised Shane at just how fast he is himself and does not throwing power puff girl punches with his speed. Cotto hits with force. Just look at his opponent's faces after their bouts with him.

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        • BMWM3P
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          #54
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          Don't necessarily agree that JMM is slower than Cotto (definately not in foot speed) but your observation is kinda right. Timing and accuracy can trump speed, however JMM has better of both than Cotto IMO and Cotto's style is made for Pac's.
          Your opinion is dead wrong Marquez is slower than Cotto and I like to know how is Cotto style made for Pac. Cotto can cut the ring, he has underated defense and his timing is perfect for Pac styles. Cotto vs Pac will be like Marquez vs Pac only Cotto's power will make much more of a difference.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #55
            Originally posted by madsweeney
            Don't necessarily agree that JMM is slower than Cotto (definately not in foot speed) but your observation is kinda right. Timing and accuracy can trump speed, however JMM has better of both than Cotto IMO and Cotto's style is made for Pac's.
            I don't think Cotto's style is made for Pac at all, but a lot does depend on him having the right game plan. He had the wrong gameplan against Marg, and although there is a big asterix against that win because of the plaster against Mosley, it was still the wrong game plan. But IMO Cotto is one of the most accurate punchers in the game today, and his speed is underrated.

            And judging him negatively on his performance against Clottey, as some posters in this thread are doing - when he was half-blind for three quarters of the fight and therefore couldn't judge distance - is crazy. Clottey is hugely under-rated by many people, IMO; and in the circumstances, with that cut, that was a great win.

            As far as game plans are concerned, though, Pac does have the advantage of having an ATG trainer.
            Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-09-2009, 08:22 PM.

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            • El Chicano
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              #56
              Originally posted by BMWM3P
              Hey genius why don't you take the Marquez fights and put them side by side with the Clottey fight. You are comparing a one sided beat down against a mummy who couldn't block or throw a punch to a highly competitive fight where Cotto was fighting with one eye against a extremely defensive opponent.

              You are ******ed, watch Marquez vs Pac and see if Pac looks that fast and relentless. Idiot you're just riding the Pac hype train can't wait till Nov. 14 to bump up all of these threads and laugh at your dumb ass.
              Pendejo, that fight was at Junior Lightweight. And don't even compare Cotto to Marquez in terms of boxing ability and counterpunching.

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              • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                #57
                Originally posted by Perro
                Pendejo, that fight was at Junior Lightweight. And don't even compare Cotto to Marquez in terms of boxing ability and counterpunching.
                yeah because marquez didnt lost to john, Norwood and Manny right?

                Marquez is a better counter puncher, Cotto is a way better body puncher and have way better jab, and knows how to put presure and lead better.

                JMM have his uppercut, Cotto the Left hook,ect,ectec

                they are about equal wether people admitts it or not!!!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Perro
                  Pendejo, that fight was at Junior Lightweight. And don't even compare Cotto to Marquez in terms of boxing ability and counterpunching.
                  We can see you true agenda from a mile away ******. So what if the fight was at junior lightweight he should have looked faster then. Cotto's boxing ability is as good as Marquez you only say that because you're a mexican nuthugger and a Cotto hater. How about the fact that your dumbass is comparing mummy DLH to Clottey who was close to 170 pounds on fight night.

                  You just want to hate on Cotto and your dumbass doesn't even believe the ****** **** you're writing and if you do then you are plain ******. I'm going to enjoy clowning your ****** ass.

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                  • El Chicano
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                    yeah because marquez didnt lost to john, Norwood and Manny right?

                    Marquez is a better counter puncher, Cotto is a way better body puncher and have way better jab, and knows how to put presure and lead better.

                    JMM have his uppercut, Cotto the Left hook,ect,ectec

                    they are about equal wether people admitts it or not!!!!
                    That's why Cotto is the #2 P4P fighter in the world right?... oh wait, he doesn't even deserve to be in the top 10. Don't know how he got the number 8 spot....

                    Last three fights: A beat down at the hands of the TJ Tornado, a **** win over Tomato Can Jennings, and a gift decision against a B level fighter in Clottey.

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                    • El Chicano
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BMWM3P
                      We can see you true agenda from a mile away ******. So what if the fight was at junior lightweight he should have looked faster then. Cotto's boxing ability is as good as Marquez you only say that because you're a mexican nuthugger and a Cotto hater. How about the fact that your dumbass is comparing mummy DLH to Clottey who was close to 170 pounds on fight night.

                      You just want to hate on Cotto and your dumbass doesn't even believe the ****** **** you're writing and if you do then you are plain ******. I'm going to enjoy clowning your ****** ass.


                      All the signs and symptoms of an incurable case of Nuthuggerism

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