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Carlos Quintana vs Verno Phillips in Talks, 9/17

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  • #31
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    OK Mr smart guy, name one other fighter Williams fought at Jr Middle
    prior to Verno Phillips.
    he started his career at Jr middle or above and various other fights after that mixed in during his welterweight reign..and the fight before Philips he fought Andy Kolle above welter
    Last edited by briggs33; 08-03-2009, 11:23 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Alpha-Omega View Post
      good golly.obviously you got something against pr fighters, cause if you actually take into account the kinda class of fighter each guy is(b level nothing more) you'd see what people meant.
      besides, what the hell are you complaining about? Williams might be middleweight champion of the world soon.

      i swear to god, this place is filled with morons.
      i consider Quintana to be a at least a top 5 WW because he did dominate Williams the entire first fight. unfortunately he lost all respect for that becuse he came in careless in the next fight and forgot about the game plan that won him the first 1. and before that he won 3 or maybe 4 rounds against Cotto before he caved after all the body work Cotto was putting in.

      He has great boxing skill with decent power and but he is a little weak when it comes to taking damage(swells fast and ?? chin) I rank him above Berto because Berto is still a very incomplete fighter. Quintanas main drawback is that he is getting old and been to inactive after the 2nd williams fight which he shoould have been given a rubber match forsince he gave it to williams afte the first fight

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        OK Mr smart guy, name one other fighter Williams fought at Jr Middle
        prior to Verno Phillips.
        Matt Hill
        Richard Burns
        Rohan Nanton
        Maham Washigton
        Laatekwei Hammond
        Joshua Onyango
        Arturo Rodriguez
        Rodolfo Gomez
        Luis Hernandez
        Javier Hector Valadez
        Sammy Sparkman
        Terrance Cauthen
        Marteze Logan
        Alfonso Sanchez
        Sergio Rios
        Verno Phillips

        almost half his fights have been fought at SWW/JMW


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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
          Matt Hill
          Richard Burns
          Rohan Nanton
          Maham Washigton
          Laatekwei Hammond
          Joshua Onyango
          Arturo Rodriguez
          Rodolfo Gomez
          Luis Hernandez
          Javier Hector Valadez
          Sammy Sparkman
          Terrance Cauthen
          Marteze Logan
          Alfonso Sanchez
          Sergio Rios
          Verno Phillips

          almost half his fights have been fought at SWW/JMW


          Alright, I'll admit that you got it in terms of backing
          up your claim that Williams fought at JR Mid/Mid.
          But it still doesn't take away from the fact that
          Williams didn't get his due from a lot of Boxing
          fans for beating Phillips AND this match up is being
          considered a good fight for Quintana AFTER Williams
          stopped him. My thing is will Quintana get props for
          beating this guy that Williams didn't get prior? That's
          where this whole argument started from.
          Last edited by GRUSTLER; 08-04-2009, 12:18 AM. Reason: Forgot to add words.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Alright, I'll admit that you got it.
            Much respect for taking it like a man,

            I already hit you with the green stuff!!!!!

            Again, much more repect for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
              Much respect for taking it like a man,

              I already hit you with the green stuff!!!!!

              Again, much more repect for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              Hey man, we've been going at for a while now and it's all good!
              We each have our own out look and opinions on matters and that
              is what being human is all about. Nothing personal.

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              • #37
                Verno won't have much left. CQ UD's him.

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                • #38
                  Too bad Verno never fought Vernon...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    Hey man, we've been going at for a while now and it's all good!
                    We each have our own out look and opinions on matters and that
                    is what being human is all about. Nothing personal.
                    Its all good.

                    Aout your claims, is not like Quintana well be named the number 1 JMW or anything for beating verno, but hes comming form alot of injuries and a long layoff and this will be his second fight or so(Idont really know) at 154, Williams is regarded as a way better fighter than Phillips and comming from a revege 1rst round KO, he looked impresive and fighting a old man plus a guy who he is suppose better than, wont give him much credit in that particular situation.

                    Its all about the circumstances and the timming of who and when you fight

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by briggs33 View Post
                      i consider Quintana to be a at least a top 5 WW because he did dominate Williams the entire first fight. unfortunately he lost all respect for that becuse he came in careless in the next fight and forgot about the game plan that won him the first 1. and before that he won 3 or maybe 4 rounds against Cotto before he caved after all the body work Cotto was putting in.

                      He has great boxing skill with decent power and but he is a little weak when it comes to taking damage(swells fast and ?? chin) I rank him above Berto because Berto is still a very incomplete fighter. Quintanas main drawback is that he is getting old and been to inactive after the 2nd williams fight which he shoould have been given a rubber match forsince he gave it to williams afte the first fight
                      Cooo-sign. I agree completly!

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